Big Pot Developing, is this playable from the button?

[party36master]

I'm not in the habit of playing 69s on the button for 2 bets, but I was the 7th player in the pot. I'm getting 10.3:2 on my call, but I have no reason to expect a 3-bet from any of the first 3 limpers. Its an easy hand to get away from if the flop goes wrong, and if I flop anything at all, I'll have odds to continue.

On the flop, I'm getting 24:2 on a 4 outer, so this is an easy call.

Thoughts on pre-flop?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (17 SB) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(8 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls, SB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (13.50 BB) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, Hero checks.

River: (13.50 BB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP3 folds.

Final Pot: 18.50 BB

[bisonbison]

jesus christ.

[PokerBob]

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Its an easy hand to get away from if the flop goes wrong,

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Which it will more than it will go right.

[CallMeIshmael]

98s = yes
97s = meh... but probably still yes
96s = no.

I could see if you were in a blind and getting a discount. But, I dont want to pay 2 sbs to see a flop here.

[ChromePony]

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Thoughts on pre-flop?

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not good

don't be results oriented, most of the time you completely whiff here, not worth the 2 bets.

[party36master]

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98s = yes
97s = meh... but probably still yes
96s = no.

I could see if you were in a blind and getting a discount. But, I dont want to pay 2 sbs to see a flop here.

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I think I'm playing any suited connectors here (would you play 65s, 54s, 43s or 32s?), and one gappers down to 86s or so.

96s was a stretch, even for my 21 VPIP self.

[CallMeIshmael]

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would you play 65s, 54s, 43s or 32s?

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No.

32s and 43s arent suited connectors in the best sense of the term.

A suited connector like 87s can make the following 2 card straights:

45678
56789
6789T
789TJ

But, 32s can make the following 2 card straights:

A2345
23456

(43s suffers the same problem, but makes 1 more straight).

So, even though they are connected, they dont have the typical straightosity of other connectors.

Also, they tend to make the ass end of the straight.

I think I would start at about 67s here, and perhaps 65s.

[mungpo]

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I'm not in the habit of playing 69s on the button for 2 bets, but I was the 7th player in the pot. I'm getting 10.3:2 on my call, but I have no reason to expect a 3-bet from any of the first 3 limpers.

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