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KDawgCometh
04-16-2005, 03:20 AM
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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, CO calls.

Flop: (11 SB) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO folds, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: (11.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, SB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

River: (27.50 BB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Final Pot: 36.50 BB

I have no reads as I hadn't been at the table for more then 30 minutes when this hand happened. Should I have capped the flop? I raised on the end even though I felt utg+1 might've filled/quaded up, but I think its good value more often than not, right /images/graemlins/confused.gif?

admiralfluff
04-16-2005, 03:26 AM
when UTG+1 wakes up and 3 bets the flop, and then leads the flush card, I think him having a flush is a strong possibility. Him having a higher flush than you becomes a strong possibility somewhere between the turn 3-bet, and the lead on the river when it's capped. I would cap this flop, and would not raise the river. I would cap the turn however.

StellarWind
04-16-2005, 03:53 AM
The call-reraise on the flop sounds like a set or a flush draw. Either way your pot equity is now in tatters and capping the flop is out of the question.

Raising the turn looks fine in a multiway pot but the cap is pretty questionable. Even when you are ahead any heart or board pair is probably fatal.

The river card is a disaster and raising should be out of the question.

mikeyvegas
04-16-2005, 04:15 AM
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The river card is a disaster and raising should be out of the question.

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And i probably cap on the flop.

Schizo
04-16-2005, 03:51 PM
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The call-reraise on the flop sounds like a set or a flush draw. Either way your pot equity is now in tatters and capping the flop is out of the question.

Raising the turn looks fine in a multiway pot but the cap is pretty questionable. Even when you are ahead any heart or board pair is probably fatal.

The river card is a disaster and raising should be out of the question.

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Stellerrrrrr Wiiiinnnndddd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He rocks.

-Schizo

chesspain
04-16-2005, 03:54 PM
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The river card is a disaster and raising should be out of the question.

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afk
04-16-2005, 04:29 PM
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I have no reads as I hadn't been at the table for more then 30 minutes when this hand happened.

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This is what I'm really curious about. 30 minutes and nothing to say on anyone?

Jeff W
04-16-2005, 04:37 PM
Awful river raise. UTG+1 nearly always has a full house or a higher flush.

KDawgCometh
04-16-2005, 04:38 PM
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I have no reads as I hadn't been at the table for more then 30 minutes when this hand happened.

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This is what I'm really curious about. 30 minutes and nothing to say on anyone?

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at least nothing that I'd be able to give a full out read on teh players. I had enough of a read on the SB to know that his raise PF indicated KK or AA and that the utg+1 was very likely to have a set, more likely then having a bigger flush draw then me