folding TT to 1 raise PF

[donger]

I just folded TT in LP to someone who is LP-P who open raised from middle position. His stats are 36%/4%/0.97AF.

I reasoned that it was way behind the range of hands a 3% PFR player would raise
Good/bad/thoughts?

[ckessel]

Any other callers? Against someone with just a 4% PFR I might fold that too or reraise. Definately not a cold call though.

At best you're 50/50 (you vs overcards) so it's hard to call this a bad fold. Unless you had enough limpers to justify the implied odds flopping a set would net you.

[cold_cash]

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I just folded TT in LP to someone who is LP-P who open raised from middle position. His stats are 36%/4%/0.97AF.

I reasoned that it was way behind the range of hands a 3% PFR player would raise
Good/bad/thoughts?

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After how many hands?

[donger]

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I just folded TT in LP to someone who is LP-P who open raised from middle position. His stats are 36%/4%/0.97AF.

I reasoned that it was way behind the range of hands a 3% PFR player would raise
Good/bad/thoughts?

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After how many hands?

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69 at that point..

[admiralfluff]

that's a bad read. 69 hands is nothing when you're looking at pfr. I think you should 3 bet here.

[Nate tha' Great]

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I just folded TT in LP to someone who is LP-P who open raised from middle position. His stats are 36%/4%/0.97AF.

I reasoned that it was way behind the range of hands a 3% PFR player would raise
Good/bad/thoughts?

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After how many hands?

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69 at that point..

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Not a good fold. I've had plenty of 69-hand stretches where my PFR was 0%, and plenty of others when it was 25%. If he's a "true" 4% PFR, the decision would be fairly close, but he's likely somewhat higher than that.

[einbert]

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At best you're 50/50 (you vs overcards) so it's hard to call this a bad fold.

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EXCEPT:

-You have position
-This 36VPIP player probably plays poorly postflop
-You will outflop two overcards about 2/3 of the time
-When you three-bet there will generally be dead blind money in the pot

[donger]

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At best you're 50/50 (you vs overcards) so it's hard to call this a bad fold.

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EXCEPT:

-You have position
-This 36VPIP player probably plays poorly postflop
-You will outflop two overcards about 2/3 of the time
-When you three-bet there will generally be dead blind money in the pot

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It didn't feel quite right when I did it. I've been playing pretty horribly lately, and not 3 betting was probably partially due to a lack of confidence :/

[shant]

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It didn't feel quite right when I did it. I've been playing pretty horribly lately, and not 3 betting was probably partially due to a lack of confidence :/

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It seems then that you know what the right move was.

[SmileyEH]

That number doesn't mean anything with only 70 hands, other than that he is a loose passive player. You don't know to what degree he is so a 3bet is in order.

-SmileyEH