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KDawgCometh
04-15-2005, 06:01 PM
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Preflop: Hero is CO with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 caps</font>, Hero calls, SB calls, UTG calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (21 SB) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB folds, UTG folds, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 caps</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (16.50 BB) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

River: (19.50 BB) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 22.50 BB

reads: MP2 is a uberdonk and MP3 hasn't been at the table too long, but any hand he has come in with has been for a raise and he had been folding a good amount of his hands PF, so I am under the assumption he is a TAG like opponent.

I don't think MP3 has a made flush and that I'm either looking at set over set or AA w/A /images/graemlins/spade.gif. MP2 is where things get tricky. I am not sure if he has a made flush, or is drawing to a flush. since no spade fell on the river, should I have raised to get extra value out of my set( even if the possible flopped flush is present) or was I right to flatcall on the big streets

cold_cash
04-15-2005, 06:08 PM
I would raise the turn. A busted flush draw won't call on the river.

Chances are nobody flopped a flush, but chances are good someone is drawing to it. You can't make that person fold, but you're a big favorite against him.

Put some more money in.

Entity
04-15-2005, 06:11 PM
I'd raise the turn because there are more ways MP3 will have A:spades:Ax or A/images/graemlins/spade.gifKo than a capping hand that made a flush (A/images/graemlins/spade.gifQ/images/graemlins/spade.gif and A/images/graemlins/spade.gifJ/images/graemlins/spade.gif).

Rob

CallMeIshmael
04-15-2005, 06:12 PM
Raise the turn.

PassiveCaller
04-15-2005, 06:15 PM
Echo'in everyone raising the turn is a good idea here especially if you'll get the guy after you to pay more for his draw PLUS there still is a good enough chance you have the best hand and if you don't you have redraws to a monster hand.

KDawgCometh
04-15-2005, 06:22 PM
If I raise the turn and get 3bet back at, do I have enough equity to cap, or should I just call

Entity
04-15-2005, 06:28 PM
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If I raise the turn and get 3bet back at, do I have enough equity to cap, or should I just call

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I'd just call at that point. You need 4 callers to gain equity from a cap.

Stack
04-15-2005, 06:28 PM
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I don't think MP3 has a made flush and that I'm either looking at set over set or AA w/A . MP2 is where things get tricky. I am not sure if he has a made flush, or is drawing to a flush.

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If he's drawing, you're still in good shape, and if he had it on the turn, you still have 10 outs. Raise the turn.