sameoldsht
04-15-2005, 07:41 AM
Brief history: way back I started out playing 1/2 Party, basically following WLLHE advice to the letter. I would simply log on to Party and get into the "next available seat" on any table. For months no attention was paid to VPIP, average pot size, or any player stats at all. I eventually got PT to evaluate my own play...then got into detailed notes on opponents. For 150K hands or so I did this and I was at about 3.2 BB/100. I considered this kick ass as my bankroll grew.
Then I started using Player View, REALLY taking detailed notes, relying on the stats and notes a ton. Shortly thereafter, I moved up to 2/4. If a table got below 30% VPIP, I was outta there and looked for another "loose" table. I sought the 40% VPIP tales and drooled when I got on one. Yet I lost my ass.
Well, not exactly lost my ass, but my BB/100 plummeted to about ZERO - break even - over the first 50,000 hands. This pissed me off. The "I'm running bad" thing didn't feel right. It just felt like something was systemically wrong.
So, after checking my stats and realizing that my VPIP, PFR, AF, etc. numbers were almost exactly the same as when I was kicking ass, I did an experiment.
I started to simply get on the waiting list for the 4 biggest average pot size games on 2/4. I would join the first two tables whenever a seat became available, as long as they were full tables. Of course these games weren't the top 4 pot-sized tables by the time I got on, but I didn't let that influence me at all, since it didn't when I first started playing in the "olden days".
In fact, most of these tables were (and are now) in the 20-25 VPIP range - not exactly a fishin hole according to most here. I seem to see many of the same money bags and eagles at these tables by the time I get there...obviously mining the fish who were there before I got there. These folks usually leave shortly after I arrive, presumably because the VPIP has decined and "tight asses" like me arrive.
Guess what? I'm back to 3+ BB/100 over about 30K hands and the bankroll has begun to grow again.
WTF is up? I usually laugh at those people that say stuff like "I'd rather play tighter players who respect raises" or "I do better agianst people who know how to really play poker", etc., etc. Now I'm wondering if I'm actually one of these people. /images/graemlins/confused.gif
Then I started using Player View, REALLY taking detailed notes, relying on the stats and notes a ton. Shortly thereafter, I moved up to 2/4. If a table got below 30% VPIP, I was outta there and looked for another "loose" table. I sought the 40% VPIP tales and drooled when I got on one. Yet I lost my ass.
Well, not exactly lost my ass, but my BB/100 plummeted to about ZERO - break even - over the first 50,000 hands. This pissed me off. The "I'm running bad" thing didn't feel right. It just felt like something was systemically wrong.
So, after checking my stats and realizing that my VPIP, PFR, AF, etc. numbers were almost exactly the same as when I was kicking ass, I did an experiment.
I started to simply get on the waiting list for the 4 biggest average pot size games on 2/4. I would join the first two tables whenever a seat became available, as long as they were full tables. Of course these games weren't the top 4 pot-sized tables by the time I got on, but I didn't let that influence me at all, since it didn't when I first started playing in the "olden days".
In fact, most of these tables were (and are now) in the 20-25 VPIP range - not exactly a fishin hole according to most here. I seem to see many of the same money bags and eagles at these tables by the time I get there...obviously mining the fish who were there before I got there. These folks usually leave shortly after I arrive, presumably because the VPIP has decined and "tight asses" like me arrive.
Guess what? I'm back to 3+ BB/100 over about 30K hands and the bankroll has begun to grow again.
WTF is up? I usually laugh at those people that say stuff like "I'd rather play tighter players who respect raises" or "I do better agianst people who know how to really play poker", etc., etc. Now I'm wondering if I'm actually one of these people. /images/graemlins/confused.gif