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Nate tha' Great
04-14-2005, 02:48 AM
Here's a fun one. 15/30. There's a poster with a dead blind in the CO. UTG raises; UTG+1, MP, HiJack, CO and SB all call. I call in the BB with 7 /images/graemlins/spade.gif 6 /images/graemlins/club.gif. The HJ is a tight aggressive player and the SB is normal preflop but very aggressive postflop. I don't have reads on the other players.
Flop Q /images/graemlins/spade.gif 7 /images/graemlins/club.gif 6 /images/graemlins/heart.gif. SB bets, I raise, UTG, UTG+1, MP and CO all cold call. SB 3-bets, I call, everyone else calls.
Turn 4 /images/graemlins/heart.gif. SB bets, I raise, everybody cold calls again, SB raises again and I cap.
Good?
SmileyEH
04-14-2005, 02:51 AM
I don't see the point of the turn cap. After the SB 3bets I just call down, seems like you are behind just too much here given the action even though the SB is "very aggressive postflop". I know it is unlikely that the SB has 77 or 66, but a set really seems probable here.
However, I'm sure my definition of very aggressive is much different from yours as 15/30 >> 2/4.
-SmileyEH
wrto4556
04-14-2005, 02:54 AM
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SB is normal preflop but very aggressive postflop
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That makes me like the turn cap.
But I still don't like the call preflop.
Clarkmeister
04-14-2005, 02:56 AM
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But I still don't like the call preflop.
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Easy preflop call.
Shillx
04-14-2005, 02:57 AM
That makes me like the turn cap.
We have a lot of coldcallers subsidizing our cap here. We don't have to be correct in the cap as often as if it were HU or a 3-way. Since we have so many people putting in such thin money, it makes the cap less of a concern.
Brad
Nate tha' Great
04-14-2005, 02:57 AM
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SB is normal preflop but very aggressive postflop
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That makes me like the turn cap.
But I still don't like the call preflop.
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The call preflop is super easy IMO getting like 6,246:1.
wrto4556
04-14-2005, 02:58 AM
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But I still don't like the call preflop.
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Easy preflop call.
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You got to tell me why, now.
EDIT: Ah. Didn't see that you were getting 6,245-1 on your money. /images/graemlins/grin.gif
Chris Daddy Cool
04-14-2005, 02:59 AM
OMG. what's up with your avatar?
LAGmaniac
04-14-2005, 02:59 AM
I was going to question not capping the flop until I realized you were going to try and protect on the turn. I would worry less about the SB having the case 6's or 7's and more about shutting out the cold callers so I like your turn cap. Looks perfect to me so far.
Nate tha' Great
04-14-2005, 03:01 AM
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OMG. what's up with your avatar?
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11.57, baby.
spoohunter
04-14-2005, 03:01 AM
You are in the BB right? Please change post : )
LAGmaniac
04-14-2005, 03:02 AM
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You are in the BB right? Please change post : )
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No I like it better when he gives a read on himself
Chris Daddy Cool
04-14-2005, 03:08 AM
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OMG. what's up with your avatar?
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11.57, baby.
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WAGER. A'S AND GIANTS WILL BOTH WIN MORE GAMES THAN THE CUBBIES THIS YEAR.
uw_madtown
04-14-2005, 03:10 AM
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OMG. what's up with your avatar?
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11.57, baby.
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WAGER. A'S AND GIANTS WILL BOTH WIN MORE GAMES THAN THE CUBBIES THIS YEAR.
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You'd better be giving damn good odds on that bet. Of COURSE the A's and Giants will have better records.
Nate tha' Great
04-14-2005, 03:14 AM
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OMG. what's up with your avatar?
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11.57, baby.
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WAGER. A'S AND GIANTS WILL BOTH WIN MORE GAMES THAN THE CUBBIES THIS YEAR.
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Name your price.
Jack Bauer
04-14-2005, 03:18 AM
i think the turn cap is necessary to make an attempt to protect your hand. a lot of the time i get content with my 2 pair, think "this guys telling me he can beat bottom two" and forget to take measures to protect my hand which very well might be good
Chris Daddy Cool
04-14-2005, 03:25 AM
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OMG. what's up with your avatar?
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11.57, baby.
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WAGER. A'S AND GIANTS WILL BOTH WIN MORE GAMES THAN THE CUBBIES THIS YEAR.
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Name your price.
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Okay. I may have been too eager when I said this, as a lot has to go right for both my teams vs. just your team.
Give me some odds and I will put down $100.
Nate tha' Great
04-14-2005, 03:29 AM
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OMG. what's up with your avatar?
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11.57, baby.
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WAGER. A'S AND GIANTS WILL BOTH WIN MORE GAMES THAN THE CUBBIES THIS YEAR.
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Name your price.
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Okay. I may have been too eager when I said this, as a lot has to go right for both my teams vs. just your team.
Give me some odds
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OMG this is the biggest puss move since the GoT Webbogle thing!!!!
Nate tha' Great
04-14-2005, 03:36 AM
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OMG. what's up with your avatar?
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11.57, baby.
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WAGER. A'S AND GIANTS WILL BOTH WIN MORE GAMES THAN THE CUBBIES THIS YEAR.
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Name your price.
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Okay. I may have been too eager when I said this, as a lot has to go right for both my teams vs. just your team.
Give me some odds
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OMG this is the biggest puss move since the GoT Webbogle thing!!!!
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The original terms of the bet have been agreed to. Go Cubs!!!
Chris Daddy Cool
04-14-2005, 03:37 AM
alright fine. even though I'm getting suckered on this.
$100. Giants and A's will win more games than the Cubs in 2005.
Are you game?
Nate tha' Great
04-14-2005, 03:38 AM
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alright fine. even though I'm getting suckered on this.
$100. Giants and A's will win more games than the Cubs in 2005.
Are you game?
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That's both the Giants and the A's, not the Giants and A's combined. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif
surfdoc
04-14-2005, 03:49 AM
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alright fine. even though I'm getting suckered on this.
$100. Giants and A's will win more games than the Cubs in 2005.
Are you game?
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That's both the Giants and the A's, not the Giants and A's combined. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif
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Clarifying the rules is an excellent idea. Well done.
Chris Daddy Cool
04-14-2005, 04:01 AM
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alright fine. even though I'm getting suckered on this.
$100. Giants and A's will win more games than the Cubs in 2005.
Are you game?
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That's both the Giants and the A's, not the Giants and A's combined. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif
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ahahahhaahhahahahahhahahahahahahahaahahahahahahaha hah. i was so goign to use this on you too.
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Give me some odds and I will put down $100.
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Nate, you should either get a 3rd party to hold this in escrow or make sure that the settlement date coincides with his rakeback payment.
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Here's a fun one. 15/30. There's a poster with a dead blind in the CO. UTG raises; UTG+1, MP, HiJack, CO and SB all call. I call in the BB with 7 /images/graemlins/spade.gif 6 /images/graemlins/club.gif. The HJ is a tight aggressive player and the SB is normal preflop but very aggressive postflop. I don't have reads on the other players.
Flop Q /images/graemlins/spade.gif 7 /images/graemlins/club.gif 6 /images/graemlins/heart.gif. SB bets, I raise, UTG, UTG+1, MP and CO all cold call. SB 3-bets, I call, everyone else calls.
Turn 4 /images/graemlins/heart.gif. SB bets, I raise, everybody cold calls again, SB raises again and I cap.
Good?
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Me likely. I sure hope the board doesn't pair on the river.
CanKid
04-14-2005, 11:19 AM
Looks standard so far, I would be more interested in seeing the river action
nolanfan34
04-14-2005, 11:44 AM
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I agree. That was very disorienting when I opened the thread. Like being in Bizzaro 2+2 or something, Nate without the Uma avatar.
CDC, the Giants are going to kill you on that bet.
Nate tha' Great
04-14-2005, 12:03 PM
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Looks standard so far, I would be more interested in seeing the river action
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River was a blank, SB checked it to me, I bet ... my hand was good and he called down with A6o. Dude was on some mad kind of tilt, though I didn't realize it until later.
Actually, upon waking up this morning and seeing the hand afresh (that's a lie ... haven't really been to bed yet) I think all the actions are pretty straightforward. With so much overlay from all the cold callers, I don't even have to have the best hand the majority of the time to make the turn cap correct.
cold_cash
04-14-2005, 12:05 PM
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CDC, the Giants are going to kill you on that bet.
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What he said.
But I think it's cool that you don't like money.
Goodnews
04-14-2005, 12:18 PM
how did you come up with 6,236:1 ?
.5+1.5 from sb, 1 from bb, 2 from utg, and 4 cold callers (8 bets)
pot is 13 small bets...
CallMeIshmael
04-14-2005, 12:20 PM
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how did you come up with 6,236:1 ?
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WOW
cold_cash
04-14-2005, 12:22 PM
I think he was exaggerating to prove a point. (Which is that in this situation, there is little difference between 6,236 and 13.)
nolanfan34
04-14-2005, 12:25 PM
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how did you come up with 6,236:1 ?
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He used the same Excel spreadsheet that projected Dustin Pedroia's stats this year.
bakku
04-14-2005, 12:43 PM
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alright fine. even though I'm getting suckered on this.
$100. Giants and A's will win more games than the Cubs in 2005.
Are you game?
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I can't believe you suckered yourself into a bet against someone who writes for Baseball Prospectus.
Chris Daddy Cool
04-14-2005, 12:50 PM
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CDC, the Giants are going to kill you on that bet.
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What he said.
But I think it's cool that you don't like money.
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i wipe my ass with hundred dollar bills.
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i wipe my ass with hundred dollar bills.
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bakku
04-14-2005, 12:54 PM
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CDC, the Giants are going to kill you on that bet.
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What he said.
But I think it's cool that you don't like money.
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i wipe my ass with hundred dollar bills.
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That seems unhygienic.
meep_42
04-14-2005, 02:01 PM
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i wipe my ass with hundred dollar bills.
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...thousands if i've had chili.
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