Hit the nuts on the turn.......

[mtdoak]

Can I play it any better?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (4 BB) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, BB folds.

River: (11 BB) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 23 BB

[Yobz]

I would 3-bet the turn and would probably muck this preflop

[spoohunter]

Three bet the turn you have CO trapped.

[Shillx]

GET THE MONEY IN THE POT WHILE PEOPLE ARE DRAWING!!!!!!!!

Brad

[Entity]

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Can I play it any better?

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Yes. This is an easy turn 3-bet.

[uw_madtown]

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I would 3-bet the turn and would probably muck this preflop

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Yup. I muck this PF 90% of the time -- there'd have to be a lot of limpers for me to play it. Turn 3-bet is absolutely necessary.

[spoohunter]

I don't mind it at all. Others?

[Spladle Master]

You three-bet the wrong street.

[Onaflag]

Holy Cow!! Get that turn capped if you can!!

Now let's talk about your PF play.

Onaflag...........

[KDawgCometh]

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I don't mind it at all. Others?

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I do, its a 1/3 blind structure. You need several limpers before even considering completing this PF. He only had one or two I think. Muck that shite PF

[jclin]

I agree with 3-bet on turn. I'm prone to play this preflop too...I don't mind the call.

What is most interesting is the river. No bet? CO coming out of nowhere is probably AJ-TJ, as I imagine that CO would have gotten in the raise at turn if he had a set (unless it is JJ /images/graemlins/grin.gif).

[wrto4556]

I dont like the call preflop, either. Maybe him and nate know something I don't.....

[uw_madtown]

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I dont like the call preflop, either. Maybe him and nate know something I don't.....

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This hand PF is entirely different from Nate's due to blind structure, number of limpers, and assumed aggression level of the game.

Nate's hand is a 1/2 blind structure, with many many limpers, in a very loose-passive live game. This is Party 3/6 which is much more aggro, it's a 1/3 blind structure, with only 2 limpers.

Same hand, same position, but one is an obvious fold and one is an obvious call.

[KDawgCometh]

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I dont like the call preflop, either. Maybe him and nate know something I don't.....

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This hand PF is entirely different from Nate's due to blind structure, number of limpers, and assumed aggression level of the game.

Nate's hand is a 1/2 blind structure, with many many limpers, in a very loose-passive live game. This is Party 3/6 which is much more aggro, it's a 1/3 blind structure, with only 2 limpers.

Same hand, same position, but one is an obvious fold and one is an obvious call.

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wouldn't 15/30 be a 2/3 blind structure, that was nate's post

[uw_madtown]

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wouldn't 15/30 be a 2/3 blind structure, that was nate's post

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I do believe you're right. Of course, that makes his PF call even MORE correct.

[wrto4556]

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wouldn't 15/30 be a 2/3 blind structure, that was nate's post

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I do believe you're right. Of course, that makes his PF call even MORE correct.

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Nate was BB and called a raise.

EDIT: But I think he was getting better odds on the call. Im just too lazy to look.

[uw_madtown]

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wouldn't 15/30 be a 2/3 blind structure, that was nate's post

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I do believe you're right. Of course, that makes his PF call even MORE correct.

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Nate was BB and called a raise.

EDIT: But I think he was getting better odds on the call. Im just too lazy to look.

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Eh, I should have checked Nate's post before responding so curtly.

Nonetheless, it's still true that his was a clear call and this is a clear fold IMO.

[GrekeHaus]

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Three bet the turn you have CO trapped.

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aggression = g00t!

Why on earth would you just call the nuts on the turn?

[tacos]

I'd have mucked too. But since it happened, how about check-raising the flop?

I'd definitely reraise the turn.

[brettbrettr]

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I would 3-bet the turn and would muck this preflop

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[chesspain]

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I would 3-bet the turn and would probably muck this preflop

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Change probably to definately and we have a deal.