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wrto4556

04-14-2005, 12:36 AM

UTG+1 is 20/6/1.7 after a 100+ hands and MP3 is 14/4/1 after aboutthe same.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises, 2 folds, MP3 3-bets, 3 folds, Hero caps, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (12.33 SB) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, MP3 3-bets, Hero folds....

Good fold?

Chairman Wood

04-14-2005, 12:49 AM

wrto4556

04-14-2005, 12:51 AM

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No

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What hands am I ahead of?

I'd like a little more than "no".

Entity

04-14-2005, 12:52 AM

I think this is fine. There's actually a reasonable chance I just call preflop against these opponents and see if it gets capped behind me.

wrto4556

04-14-2005, 12:54 AM

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There's actually a reasonable chance I just call preflop against these opponents and see if it gets capped behind me.

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Oooh. That's a good idea.

Shillx

04-14-2005, 12:54 AM

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I think this is fine. There's actually a reasonable chance I just call preflop against these opponents and see if it gets capped behind me.

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Change reasonable to always and I like it a lot.

I would save the cappage for when there are other callers in the hand. They need to pay for coming in with weaker hands, but against just a raiser and a 3-bettor I would just call for info.

As for the flop...if you are going to play on again I like calling for info to see if it gets capped behind you.

Brad

CallMeIshmael

04-14-2005, 12:54 AM

Though Im not too confident, I like it.

You've capped preflop and they have just 3-bet you.

They both have to have TT/JJ or be way way over playing AK for you to be good.

It looks like you are paying quite a few bets to see a showdown. (you probably have less than 5:1 effective odds on seeing a showdown). And I like a fold.

wrto4556

04-14-2005, 12:59 AM

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises, 2 folds, MP3 3-bets, 3 folds, Hero caps, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (12.33 SB) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, MP3 3-bets, Hero folds, UTG+1 caps, MP3 calls.

Turn: (10.66 BB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
UTG+1 bets, MP3 calls.

River: (12.66 BB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
UTG+1 bets, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 14.66 BB

UTG+1 has As Ad (one pair, aces).
MP3 has Kc Kd (one pair, kings).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins 14.66 BB.

Would have been the only pot I won today.

jason_t

04-14-2005, 01:02 AM

Nice hand.

SmileyEH

04-14-2005, 01:05 AM

Yeah I like it. Its not weak, its profitable.

-SmileyEH

solidswede

04-14-2005, 02:05 AM

Would have played it differently. No cap preflop, checkraise the flop and if flop gets capped release it on turn.

wrto4556

04-14-2005, 02:08 AM

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Would have played it differently. No cap preflop, checkraise the flop and if flop gets capped release it on turn.

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And when it's two back to you on the flop what do you do? 3-bet? Call and get stuck in the middle? or fold...?

I think that's inviting spewage.

jason_t

04-14-2005, 02:11 AM

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Would have played it differently. No cap preflop, checkraise the flop and if flop gets capped release it on turn.

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