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Jaquen H'gar
04-13-2005, 06:47 PM
Forget bragging on a reload, I'm gonna brag on my CPA. Great anecdotal evidence for hiring a CPA when the income isn’t straightforward.

Requisite background: On two separate occasions, I’ve battled through a preliminary audit and a full audit. On the full audit, the IRS agent admitted that if a CPA had signed off on my return, they would have likely limited it to just a simple inquiry since their likelihood of finding extra tax funds would have been lessened and thus not worth their limited time/resources. Light bulb goes off. I went and found me a sharp but straight-laced CPA to do my taxes. Sharp because I want every deduction possible; straight-laced because I didn’t want to have to suffer/sweat through another audit, worried about disallowances of deductions.

I work a regular fulltime job and make very good income with taxes withheld. Last year I made a little over $100k profit on the side (mainly BJ and video poker and holecarding one-card poker. I’m still a low limit poker player online/B&M but improving). Of this, approx $80k was won with no taxes withheld ($21k was made via a royal at VP with taxes withheld). Of this $80k, I held on to $26k and put it in a money market account to hold for taxes this month.

I gave all the paperwork to my CPA who went to work and came up with a few key ideas. I would file Sched C on the gaming in light of my substantial income and hours put in. Obviously quite a few deductions follow. In addition, because my regular job doesn’t have a retirement program and I can’t qualify for an IRA due to income, I would start a Uni-K (401k) and would be eligible to contribute up to 40% of my taxable gaming income which would then be tax deductible. On his recommendation, I contributed $24k I had set aside for taxes, leaving me sweating with only $2k in cash to pay taxes (without drawing from 2005 profits). He tells me not to worry. He then breaks out a list of various deductions allowed by the IRS and we go through them one by one. Stuff on here I would never have considered. In addition, he points out that I held out too much (32%) from my gaming wins because I don’t have to pay social security on them (having reached the cap with my regular job). In addition, I find out (actually already knew it but finally realized it) just how much of my gigantic house mortagage payment is actually interest and not principal and thus tax deductible (one good thing about living beyond my means!).

Bottom line when all said and done: the feds owe ME an $1800 refund!! I owe my state $2100 in taxes. It’s almost a complete wash! I go from thinking I owe the IRS $26k to just about breaking even.

I’m still out my $26k I had set aside but rather than it going to the IRS, $24k of it is working for me, rolling over until I retire. The other $2k went to my state, and the IRS refund I then applied to my first quarterly payment of 2005. I’m so paranoid, though, that I pay another CPA just to look over my return and see if it is all legit. Per him, it is.

My CPA bill $550
My CPA reviewer’s bill $50
Having $80,000 in non-withheld declared income and paying only $300 in taxes: PRICELESS

AA suited
04-13-2005, 08:33 PM
what state?

FishBurger
04-13-2005, 08:59 PM
Thanks for the info on the uni-K. That sounds like a great way for professional gamblers to shelter some of their income.

Jaquen H'gar
04-14-2005, 02:14 PM
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what state?

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Miss

LinusKS
04-14-2005, 02:29 PM
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Last year I made a little over $100k profit on the side (mainly BJ and video poker and holecarding one-card poker.

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Is this online, or B&M? What is "holecarding one-card poker"?

What's VP?

What kind of records did you keep?

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Jaquen H'gar
04-15-2005, 09:46 PM
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Last year I made a little over $100k profit on the side (mainly BJ and video poker and holecarding one-card poker.

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Is this online, or B&M? What is "holecarding one-card poker"?

What's VP?

What kind of records did you keep?

Thanks /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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BJ - B&M, mostly straight card counting, some shuffle tracking

VP is video poker. The profit in VP is by playing perfectly to minimize the house edge and get cashback via player's card at a % that exceeds house edge. Also, comps get racked up at VP due to the large amount of coin in. Free rooms are nice but cash coupons are best (work very similar to reload bonuses). A lot of VP action at a casino will generate say 4 coupons per month worth $150 each. Also, some VP machines are tied in to a progressive meaning that it is +EV when considering the possibility of hitting a royal flush.

Poker - online and B&M. I'm still a learning low limit player (2-4 online, 5-10 B&M) and don't play much, usually only for reload bonii.

One card poker is a B&M casino game that has a large house edge unless you are able to spot the dealer's down card then it is massive +EV as you would expect. I won't explain exactly how it's done on a public board but the EV is north of $500/hr at very little risk. This is considered a juicy bonus. You go to a casino to play BJ or VP but you always surf through the one card poker tables to see if an opportunity is available. You can get up several G's before the pit crew becomes suspicious. Of course, they are looking from a different angle so most of the time your win is attributed to luck.

I keep records of every single session, table played, time, win/loss, casino's estimate of my win/loss, etc.

Chiron
04-15-2005, 09:57 PM
My CPA is this badass New Yorker who looks like a mobster and has actually played a mobster in a movie before (some early 80's flick). If that wasn't enough already, to sweeten the deal he's a gambling tax expert!

swolfe
06-15-2005, 03:19 PM
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My CPA is this badass New Yorker who looks like a mobster and has actually played a mobster in a movie before (some early 80's flick). If that wasn't enough already, to sweeten the deal he's a gambling tax expert!

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contact info?

gisb0rne
06-15-2005, 06:09 PM
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I won't explain exactly how it's done on a public board but the EV is north of $500/hr at very little risk.

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Is that sloppy dealers or do you spot it with a partner or what? I'm suprised the casinos can go so long without realizing what's happening and change their policies/dealer procedures.