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dawade
04-13-2005, 02:10 PM
No reads, just sat down at this table.

PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, Hero calls, CO calls, SB calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (21 SB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, SB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (15.50 BB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, SB calls, UTG+2 folds, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

River: (19.50 BB) J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, MP2 folds, Hero checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: 19.50 BB

Reqtech
04-13-2005, 02:19 PM
I like all streets. Too bad you never found out what the limp-capper had, though.

aK13
04-13-2005, 02:20 PM
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I like all streets. Too bad you never found out what the limp-capper had, though.

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Not quite a limp-cap, he coldcalled and then capped, which is actually even more strange.

As a whole, this hand is really weird. CO seems like a nutjob that doesn't know what he's doing...calls 3 cold on the flop, raises flop, bets turn, and then checks through the river when a semi blank comes? I actually get the feeling you took down this pot somehow.

tor
04-13-2005, 02:26 PM
You shouldn't just be sitting down. At *least* watch one orbit, I prefer two. I think you'll make more money regularly observing your opponents before play, than you would worrying about playing this hand.

@bsolute_luck
04-13-2005, 02:31 PM
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Not quite a limp-cap, he coldcalled and then capped, which is actually even more strange.

As a whole, this hand is really weird. CO seems like a nutjob that doesn't know what he's doing...calls 3 cold on the flop, raises flop, bets turn, and then checks through the river when a semi blank comes? I actually get the feeling you took down this pot somehow.

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he's gotta be a maniac retard who watches too much tv or something. i think someone with experience needs to make a thread (maybe there is one) on how to handle this kind of aggrevating garbage.

SlantNGo
04-13-2005, 02:32 PM
Is anyone a fan of a stop &amp; go here? Betting the turn &amp; folding to a raise unless there's enough callers to draw for the set.

DeathbySuckout
04-13-2005, 02:34 PM
I would probably call PF instead of raising, but that's just me being tight. The rest of it looks good.

Rambino
04-13-2005, 02:39 PM
I like your play. I don't always have the guts to 3-bet TT, but I think clearly the correct play.

The only thing I might have done differently would be to bet the turn, but hard to tell without a read on the CO.

I put the CO on KQ /images/graemlins/diamond.gif or something like that. He was trying to protect his top pair/draw against KK/AA. This might explain the river check. Or he is just a loonie.

Wetdog
04-13-2005, 02:40 PM
I'm confused by CO's action. At first I thought set, semi-confirmed by the turn bet. Maybe he's on a flush draw? The river check means what, a busted draw? I dunno. And what's up with MP2's fold on the river? Does Stars allow a fold without a previous bet?

I'm guessing Hero took down the pot.

dawade
04-13-2005, 02:43 PM
I hear everyone classifying these players and taking copious amounts of notes, but I still haven't progressed enough to know what type of player a certain player is. I can occasionally spot a rock or a maniac, but that's only in obvious situations.

dawade
04-13-2005, 02:44 PM
Yeah you can fold, but it still prompts you to check unless you're just determined to fold. I guess he folded so we couldn't see his cards? I know I'm not supposed to give results, but I indeed did take down the pot.

Felipe
04-13-2005, 02:58 PM
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I would probably call PF instead of raising, but that's just me being tight. The rest of it looks good.

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isn't that more like passivity than tightness?

DeathbySuckout
04-13-2005, 03:30 PM
I don't think so because I would've raised if limped to me. I just don't like 3 betting it. Although I probably should.

tor
05-28-2005, 05:11 PM
*posting blind*

Given that everyone's just calling, it looks like there's a few drawing hands or weak pairs out there, and I don't think you'll be able to draw out 4 big bets to justify the turn call if you hit your 10. I wouldn't count another 4, the CO is representing top pair, trip queens, or an overpair.

Though, having said that, I still feel uneasy about whether or not it's possible...

In the absence of reads, I'd fold the turn, though not feel great about it.

cmwck
05-28-2005, 05:50 PM
Does everyone think we have the best hand on the turn? If not, we're only getting 18.5:1 to call, and won't extract 4 bets on the river if we hit a set.

Kain
05-28-2005, 06:43 PM
Looks like CO possibly had A/images/graemlins/diamond.gifK/images/graemlins/diamond.gif?