Bubble Hand: KK

[SuitedSixes]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (4 handed) converter

UTG (t5535)
Hero (t940)
SB (t415)
BB (t3110)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K, K.
UTG raises to t200, Hero calls t200, 2 folds.

Flop: (t550) A, 2, 9 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (t550) 5 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: (t550) 3 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: t550

Do you think this is the best way to play this hand? Preflop thoughts, and postflop

[gumpzilla]

Where is the instructional value in this? Why not put this in the Scuba thread where it belongs, seeing how it's the exact same situation, only with QQ -> KK.

[The Yugoslavian]

Very nicely done.

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Are you kidding me? What are you doing, trapping or being weary of being trapped?

Have you read any of the . . . oh I don't know 2000 posts on here, that tell you to either push or fold with less than 10BB?

4.7 &lt; 10

You baffle me.
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Yugoslav

[johnnybeef]

i think from the bluff call on the flop to the value check on the river, this hand was executed perfectly. well played suited!

[raptor517]

i see 2 K's standing next to each other, i shove. that is all. but other than that, i do actually kinda like this POST flop. i still shove preflop all day though. holla

[mike28]

How do you not push this preflop?

How do you not push this on the turn?

[Irieguy]

Nice avatar.

Irieguy

[DasLeben]

Why did this thread get deleted, and then magically reappear? WARUM?!

[stupidsucker]

This is a push preflop.

I push the flop too because at this point you need the chips and if he has the A then start another one up.

[Pepsquad]

Push pre-flop.

Post-flop? AWEFUL push.

[zaphod]

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Where is the instructional value in this? Why not put this in the Scuba thread where it belongs, seeing how it's the exact same situation, only with QQ -&gt; KK.

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I will soon make my post with how to play jacks on the bubble.

[stupidsucker]

[ QUOTE ]
Push pre-flop.

Post-flop? AWEFUL push.

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Flop: (t550) A, 2, 9 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

It is closer then I originaly thought but I still like pushing better then check/call or check/fold.

UTG could have any 2 here and is less likely to have an ace compared to your normal minraiser, AND he has showed weakness in the check. You have an oportunity to double up with a steal.

If you are going to allow yourself into this mess then pushing is your only way out. Waiting for death is not my style. nor is it normally +EV.

[Pepsquad]

Agreed that UTG is less likely than the ordinary raiser to have an ace. However, it's also possible UTG has a weak ace and would call the all-in or is even stronger and trying to trap.

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If you are going to allow yourself into this mess then pushing is your only way out. Waiting for death is not my style. nor is it normally +EV.

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WRONG. Waiting for death ain't my style either but you better believe it is +EV in this situation. Due to a farily severe short-stack in 4th place you have all the time in the world.

Pep.

[The Yugoslavian]

I'm glad no one (or very few) got the brilliance of your post...

Ni han to you Suited!

Yugoslav

[1C5]

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I'm glad no one (or very few) got the brilliance of your post...

Ni han to you Suited!

Yugoslav

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it took me all of 10 seconds to get it. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Scuba Chuck]

Hmmmm, that's precisely what I was thinking. wtf?

Scuba
who knows it's easy to be objective when it's not your game.

Edit: Damn, you caught me

[Voltron87]

I don't get it. Explanation?

[Apathy]

Sometimes you stand to be such a favourite on the bubble that you just have to ignore the other stack sizes and try to double up. You need to push this PF. I say ni han if you have QQ but you gotta push the kings. Also to think you are getting called here all the time is crazyness, I bet the villian folds a decent amount, which is a great addition to your stack size.

[Apathy]

bah just saw scubas post, very funny..still though the hands are different, QQ plays signifigantly worse then KK against a random hand.

[The Yugoslavian]

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I don't get it. Explanation?

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Look to Scuba's post
On queen queen at the bubble
It will explain all.

Yugoslav

[Voltron87]

It's the same thing but with KK. I don't see what is funny.

[gumpzilla]

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It's the same thing but with KK. I don't see what is funny.

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Cutting and pasting is inherently funny. Particularly when you're making fun of morons like Scuba. Ha! That retard thought he could post a hand on here that he found interesting and get away with it! Get with the times, Voltron.

Also, haiku? Comedy gold!

[Unarmed]

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Push pre-flop.

Post-flop? AWEFUL push.

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Pushing only gets called by a hand that beats you.
No ace is folding to your push.

Pushing this flop turns KK into 27o.
This is bad.

Let lower PP bet a subsequent street and value call to the river.