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04-12-2005, 12:02 PM
Hand 1
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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.
Flop: (17.50 SB) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds.
Turn: (10.25 BB) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.
River: (13.25 BB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero folds, MP2 folds, UTG+1 calls.
Final Pot: 14.25 BB
Could I have gotten away from this hand sooner?
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Hand 2
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Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls, MP1 calls.
Flop: (10 SB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.
Turn: (7 BB) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls, MP1 calls.
River: (11 BB) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $4 (All-In)</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 15 BB
I felt I was likely behind most of this hand, but believe I had the pot odds to call to the river, but do I have ANY business calling the final bet on the river? I believe this constitutes a potential major leak in my game. Making too many ‘crying calls’ under similar circumstances. I think I really need to ditch the “when the pot is large” holdem mindset. Thoughts?
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Hand 3
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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, Dirty calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls, jc calls, MP1 calls.
Flop: (14.50 SB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.
Turn: (10.25 BB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.
River: (16.25 BB) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, UTG folds, Hero folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP3 calls.
Final Pot: 19.25 BB
Similar to hand 2 – again, I feel I had pot odds to improve, but recognized I was probably behind to a set by the river. Anyone play this differently?
Also, any general thoughts on playing top two pair? I feel I'm likely value these hands too high and am perhaps not factoring in the fact that I may be drawing dead.
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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.
Flop: (17.50 SB) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds.
Turn: (10.25 BB) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.
River: (13.25 BB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero folds, MP2 folds, UTG+1 calls.
Final Pot: 14.25 BB
Could I have gotten away from this hand sooner?
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Hand 2
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Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls, MP1 calls.
Flop: (10 SB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.
Turn: (7 BB) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls, MP1 calls.
River: (11 BB) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $4 (All-In)</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 15 BB
I felt I was likely behind most of this hand, but believe I had the pot odds to call to the river, but do I have ANY business calling the final bet on the river? I believe this constitutes a potential major leak in my game. Making too many ‘crying calls’ under similar circumstances. I think I really need to ditch the “when the pot is large” holdem mindset. Thoughts?
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Hand 3
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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, Dirty calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls, jc calls, MP1 calls.
Flop: (14.50 SB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.
Turn: (10.25 BB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.
River: (16.25 BB) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, UTG folds, Hero folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP3 calls.
Final Pot: 19.25 BB
Similar to hand 2 – again, I feel I had pot odds to improve, but recognized I was probably behind to a set by the river. Anyone play this differently?
Also, any general thoughts on playing top two pair? I feel I'm likely value these hands too high and am perhaps not factoring in the fact that I may be drawing dead.