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U235
04-12-2005, 10:06 AM
This is from the Party $100 + $9 last night.

14 people left. 7 at the table. We are in the money; the next pay bump is at 10th. Average stack size is ~11,400. There is no real chip leader at your table; there are about 4 players bunched at 13K - 16K. Blinds at 400/800. Relevant stack sizes:

MP2: ~9,000
MP3: ~13,500
Button: ~15,000 (Hero)

All fold to MP2, who raises to 2,400. MP3 re-raises to 6,000. You look down to see: Pocket 10's. What's your move?

Reads:
MP2: Has made many steal raises, and often laid down to re-raises.
MP3: Has been less active, and shown down mostly (but not all) good hands. Recently called all his chips with 7-7 in the big blind against a button raise (ended in a split pot).
Hero: Your image is pretty active; you have made a couple of successful re-raises to MP2's raises. Also, on the hand previous to this one you re-raised MP3's opening raise, and got him to lay down.

fireman664
04-12-2005, 10:37 AM
I get out of the way

Mez
04-12-2005, 11:04 AM
Fold. Your fold equity is pretty low here if you have any at all. If you play this hand, you have to push and you're 99% to get called by MP3 who will have either two overs or an overpair. No reason to take that chance right here. I'd prefer to be the aggressor.

schwza
04-12-2005, 11:07 AM
i fold. with JJ i probably still fold. QQ i'd push.

tiger7210
04-12-2005, 12:01 PM
I fold here with TT's to a raise and reraise unless both stacks were extremely short.

willie
04-12-2005, 12:10 PM
fold

because on many occassions i've pushed here and seen hands that had me crushed.

U235
04-12-2005, 01:55 PM
Everyone seems to want to fold. Hero (or Villain /images/graemlins/mad.gif) actually re-raised all-in. MP2 folded. MP3 thought for a while and then, getting about 3:1, called.

I was actually MP3. I had KQo. I'd been waiting to take a shot at MP2 for a while, and finally thought I had a hand that could do it. Once Button re-raised, I thought I was screwed, but given the fact that I just layed down to him, I thought there was enough of a chance that I wasn't dominated.

I was happy when the 10's showed, but less so when I lost the race. The bastard took an über-chiplead on that hand, and went on to win the tourney.

I though it was a very loose raise at the time, but given the fact that MP2 was known to make many a steal raise, wouldn't that also make any re-raises over him also suspect? You are probably more likely to be up against hands like 66-99 or overcards than your standard raise/re-raise action.

ZootMurph
04-12-2005, 02:02 PM
Real easy fold. At worst, you are up against at least one overpair, and are playing to two outs. You could be up against something like AK vs AQ, leaving 8 cards that can beat you. At BEST, you are against two overcards and an underpair, putting you on the short end of a race where the underpair has two outs and the overcards have 6.

At this point in the tournament, you would prefer a better situation.