How much do you tip?

[fluxrad]

How much do you tip on average? This doesn't include things like at the poker table, but more along the lines of a nice dinner or for other services.

[Dead]

>25%

[Chairman Wood]

If it truly was a nice dinner with great service I have no problem going up to even 40%. I traditionally tip somewhere between 15-20 for average. That being said, if they suck ass I have left just a note telling them that.

[DBowling]

very different based on the service

[Dead]

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That being said, if they suck ass I have left just a note telling them that.

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This is an a**hole move.

Waiters and waitresses only get like 2.18/hr base pay. They rely on tips.

If the service is TRULY awful, then I will tip 15-20%. But it is rare that I receive bad service.

Otherwise it's ~30%.

[BusterStacks]

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That being said, if they suck ass I have left just a note telling them that.

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This is an a**hole move.

Waiters and waitresses only get like 2.18/hr base pay. They rely on tips.

If the service is TRULY awful, then I will tip 15-20%. But it is rare that I receive bad service.

Otherwise it's ~30%.

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This is only true in some states (not here). I am not opposed to leaving nothing. I tip based on service alone. In fact, my first OOT post was an essay on not tipping. Bonus points to whoever digs it up.

[fluxrad]

I go the same way. Usually the waiter/waitress will have to screw up the service to get less than 20%. Rock star service gets them at least 30% and piss-poor service will get them three pennies in the bottom of a glass ;-)

[Dead]

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That being said, if they suck ass I have left just a note telling them that.

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This is an a**hole move.

Waiters and waitresses only get like 2.18/hr base pay. They rely on tips.

If the service is TRULY awful, then I will tip 15-20%. But it is rare that I receive bad service.

Otherwise it's ~30%.

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This is only true in some states (not here). I am not opposed to leaving nothing. I tip based on service alone. In fact, my first OOT post was an essay on not tipping. Bonus points to whoever digs it up.

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My mistake. But in the states where they don't get minimum wage(NY is one of them) it is truely an a**hole move.

[pshreck]

Its definetly not wrong to not tip given the right circumstances. I wouldnt say poor service is a good one either (like say they have 15 tables to wait and cant give you that much time), but anything like blatant rudeness or intentional ignoring, and they can expect to receive something very small (like 40 bucks on a 37 dollar bill).

[mmbt0ne]

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Waiters and waitresses only get like 2.18/hr base pay. They rely on tips.

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If they don't make at least minimum wage after tips are included, the restaurant is obligated to pay them more, so that they are at least making minimum wage for the hours they worked. I know that's how it is in Georgia, I'm going to assume it's across the country too, since it is a federal minimum wage.

Bad service does not deserve a 15-20% tip.

[daryn]

same old thread. inevitably some loser will chime in saying that anyone who has never worked for tips should be forced to at some point in their life.

tip whatever you want. i think tipping anything more than 30% is totally stupid, but that's fine if you do it. i usually tip a little more than 20%, but if the service is crap i could go as low at 10%. if it's truly horrid i have no problem leaving nothing if it's the waitresses fault. i'm not just talking about food taking long to come out, i'm saying if the waitress is actually neglecting you as a customer, and you can tell.

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something very small (like 40 bucks on a 37 dollar bill)

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Can I wait on you please? a 100%+ tip sounds pretty sweet to me. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[fluxrad]

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My mistake. But in the states where they don't get minimum wage(NY is one of them) it is truely an a**hole move.


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No, it's not. A tip is a gratuity for decent service. If there's no decent service, there's little if any gratuity.

I went out to dinner once where the waitress came to our table after us having sat there for ~20 minutes, we had to remind her about our drink order several times, and the food was screwed up when we got it. She was an awful waitress who made it more than clear that she was interested in doing anything but serving our table.

You believe it's an [censored] move not to give her a tip?

[Dead]

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inevitably some loser will chime in saying that anyone who has never worked for tips should be forced to at some point in their life.

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I wouldn't say this, but maybe I would recommend the book Nickel and Dimed to some people.

"Essayist and cultural critic Barbara Ehrenreich has always specialized in turning received wisdom on its head with intelligence, clarity, and verve. With some 12 million women being pushed into the labor market by welfare reform, she decided to do some good old-fashioned journalism and find out just how they were going to survive on the wages of the unskilled--at $6 to $7 an hour, only half of what is considered a living wage. So she did what millions of Americans do, she looked for a job and a place to live, worked that job, and tried to make ends meet."

A fascinating read, and a definite eye-opener. I worked retail during high school, but my job was heaven compared to some of these.

[Chairman Wood]

[quote]This is an a**hole move.

Waiters and waitresses only get like 2.18/hr base pay. They rely on tips.

If the service is TRULY awful, then I will tip 15-20%. But it is rare that I receive bad service.

Otherwise it's ~30%. [/quote
You really have to be awful to get me to do this. I am well aware of how much of their income comes from tips. I just believe that if they sucked enough that if I was their boss I would fire them on the spot that I will not give a tip. I have no problem rewarding mediocrity in this situation and rewarding well good service. However, I will not reward in any manner overall terribleness and rudeness.

[kipin]

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same old thread. inevitably some loser will chime in saying that anyone who has never worked for tips should be forced to at some point in their life.

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Don't forget the Mr. Pink scene someone is sure to quote.

[brassnuts]

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That being said, if they suck ass I have left just a note telling them that.

[/ QUOTE ] This is an a**hole move.

Waiters and waitresses only get like 2.18/hr base pay. They rely on tips.

If the service is TRULY awful, then I will tip 15-20%. But it is rare that I receive bad service.

Otherwise it's ~30%.

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Yeah, isn't it horrible if someone actually gets paid on merit.

Seriously, I have left like $0.20 on a table just to make a point. This was aboslutely horrible service. Poor service up through slightly-below-average service will get 15%. I normally tip 20% and have gone higher on rare circumstances. Not as rare as the $0.20 tip, though.

[Dead]

Sh**, why do I even bother?

[juanez]

anyone who has never worked for tips should be forced to at some point in their life. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[Chairman Wood]

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go the same way. Usually the waiter/waitress will have to screw up the service to get less than 20%. Rock star service gets them at least 30% and piss-poor service will get them three pennies in the bottom of a glass ;-)

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Agreed and I'm a pretty understanding guy. You have to [censored] [censored] up really bad for me to do this.

[brassnuts]

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anyone who has never worked for tips should be forced to at some point in their life.

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Does this include the mentally handicapped? And, if so, should I be forced to tip them my normal amount even though they drooled into my food?

[slickpoppa]

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same old thread. inevitably some loser will chime in saying that anyone who has never worked for tips should be forced to at some point in their life.


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And then another loser will chime in that tipping is not mandatory and that you should never feel obligated to tip, as if we all didn't know that already.

[pshreck]

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Sh**, why do I even bother?

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Dead, in the future, when you are taking your children out (*shudders at this thought*), and one of your kids orders hot chocolate, and the waitress says we dont have any, and you point out that you can see the Swiss Miss mix right on the diner counter, and the waitress tells you to not tell her how to do her job.... then you just go ahead and leave her a big fat tip.

(This happened to me when I was a kid. Instead of my mother making a scene, she just didnt tip the waitress. Youd have to be crazy to tip anything here.)

[astroglide]

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Waiters and waitresses only get like 2.18/hr base pay. They rely on tips.

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us department of labor minimum wage faq (http://www.dol.gov/esa/minwage/q-a.htm)

An employer of a tipped employee is only required to pay $2.13 an hour in direct wages if that amount plus the tips received equals at least the federal minimum wage, the employee retains all tips and the employee customarily and regularly receives more than $30 a month in tips. If an employee's tips combined with the employer's direct wages of at least $2.13 an hour do not equal the federal minimum hourly wage, the employer must make up the difference.

20% is my standard. they're not making $2/hr if they receive no tips, but they're probably getting fired and will receive $0/hr for sucking.

[Alobar]

I worked for tips for a long time, so now that I have cash, Im a pretty extravegant tipper...Never less than 20% and most of the time prolly like 40%

[Dead]

I've never in my life had service like that.

EVER.

And we go out to eat a lot when I am at home. Like, more than most families do.

I have never ever had a rude server, in the 15 years of my life that I can remember.

[astroglide]

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I worked for tips for a long time, so now that I have cash, Im a pretty extravegant tipper...Never less than 20% and most of the time prolly like 40%

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i think 25-30% is the top end of extreme for me.

i guess if you're eating at fazolis and tipping the bread bringers that's cool, but 40% of a decent meal is insane.

[pshreck]

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I've never in my life had service like that.

EVER.

And we go out to eat a lot when I am at home. Like, more than most families do.

I have never ever had a rude server, in the 15 years of my life that I can remember.

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Right. So thats probably why you think you should always tip. I can almost guarantee that if someone treated your girlfriend, wife, or kids like [censored], then you wouldnt tip them. I honestly dont know why you would.

[Dead]

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the waitress tells you to not tell her how to do her job

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To add stuff:

I've never in my life had service like that.

EVER.

And we go out to eat a lot when I am at home. Like, more than most families do.

I have never ever had a rude server, in the 15 years of my life that I can remember.

But I agree that in this case I would leave a TINy tip. But this has never happened to me.

And this is not the norm.


And don't worry about my kids. They will be just like me, in that they will be honest, caring, and loyal people.

[fluxrad]

ph33r the double-post.

Seriously...it just sounds like you either have never had bad service or have a very different standard of what piss poor service is.

[Dead]

I've had bad service.

As in cold food, late food, etc.

But I've never had RUDE service at a restaurant. There is a difference.

[Chairman Wood]

Situations like this are like those where I would recommmend not leaving a tip and leaving a note. It's not a nice thing to do but you have to be a HORRIBLE waiter to deserve it.

[Sponger15SB]

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ph33r the double-post.

Seriously...it just sounds like you are an idiot

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[Alobar]

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I worked for tips for a long time, so now that I have cash, Im a pretty extravegant tipper...Never less than 20% and most of the time prolly like 40%

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i think 25-30% is the top end of extreme for me.

i guess if you're eating at fazolis and tipping the bread bringers that's cool, but 40% of a decent meal is insane.

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lol, I dont actually tip the fazolis guy :/

Like I said, I did it for a long time, so I know what a big difference it makes in someomes day.

Say the tab comes out to like $80, 20% is $16, so I just round that up to $20, and then Im like "[censored] it, im already spending $100 on the meal, whats $10 more bucks and its really going to make this guys day", so I'll leave $30. Im gunna blow it on something stupid anyway, it might as well go towards good kharma, and it makes me feel good to remember how I felt when I got a huge tip, and know that I just made someone else feel that.

[juanez]

I know that you weren't trying to bring poker into this, but I think it's funny....the poll results indicate a tip amount well above what poker many players think is a reasonable tip amount for poker dealers.

I find this interesting...and I'm not trying to incite an argument here.

When you order a meal and get good service, 20% is a decent amount to tip a server (according to many here). You PAY to get the meal. The server basically writes your order on a piece of paper and gives it to the chef, who cooks it. The server then delivers it to your table after the chef cooks it. Serioiusly, no offense to servers or cooks - I've been both myself before and made GREAT money (well, waitering at least).

When you play poker and you WIN or RECIEVE money, do you tip the dealer 20% for delivering the money to you?

LOL - I know the answer is no. Nor do I think poker dealers deserve 20% of a pot - just fascinating to me how people think.

Oh yeah - 20% for most service, more for excellent service. And $1 per pot at a poker table, more if it's a big pot.

[fluxrad]

I think this would be akin to tipping the waiter/waitress $1 every time they came by to ask you how you were doing or to bring you your drinks/food instead of doing it all at the end of the meal.

The end result is the same, it's just that the distribution is different.

[Alobar]

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I think this would be akin to tipping the waiter/waitress $1 every time they came by to ask you how you were doing or to bring you your drinks/food instead of doing it all at the end of the meal.

The end result is the same, it's just that the distribution is different.

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excellent point

[edtost]

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In fact, my first OOT post was an essay on not tipping. Bonus points to whoever digs it up.

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make it a challenge at least.

here (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&amp;Number=767017&amp;page=&amp;view=&amp;sb =5&amp;o=&amp;vc=1)

[juanez]

I think this would be akin to tipping the waiter/waitress $1 every time they came by to ask you how you were doing or to bring you your drinks/food instead of doing it all at the end of the meal.

Maybe that's true. But jeez, having a waiter/waitress come by 20 times during a $100 meal seems excesive, even annoying. That's every 3 minutes if you're there for an hour for a $100 meal, more times than that if it's a less expensive meal.

[JaBlue]

it really depends.

mediocre service: I went out to eat at a pancake house that was nearly empty and the waiter asked my friends and I what we wanted and served it to us. That's all he did. Also, he was clearly the owner of the place. We gave him 15%.

Another time I went to a great vietnamese place that seemed to also be the owner's house. The food was excellent and the owner and his wife were exceptionally accomodating. They were incredibly friendly and amicable and chatted with us. They also gave us free dessert. For the five of us, the meal was probably 120$ or so post-tax (not including the free desert). My friends put 30$ toward the tip between them. I added another 20$ and felt that it was justified. Also I should note that I am not by any means wealthy so this was definitely the extreme, but I did feel justified in givingt them such an extravagant tip.

[Dead]

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Seriously...it just sounds like you are a cheapskate

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[InchoateHand]

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anyone who has never worked for tips should be forced to at some point in their life. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

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I'm not really sure what this means. Are you implying that someone that has worked for tips should tip excessively, even when it is not deserved? I'd venture the opposite. Some that has worked their ass off for tips, would probably be less tolerant of someone too lazy or stupid to do a better job and may tip less for poor service.

[InchoateHand]

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Waiters and waitresses only get like 2.18/hr base pay. They rely on tips.

If the service is TRULY awful, then I will tip 15-20%. But it is rare that I receive bad service.

Otherwise it's ~30%.

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I'm glad our resident socialist has chimed in with his standard entitlement speech. Waiters and waitresses are entitled to above standard tips, regardless of merit. If you think anything different, obviously it's just that you're cheap.

[Edge34]

Average tip for me: approx. 25-30%

Occasionally up to 50-60%, especially for the hot waitresses. /images/graemlins/cool.gif

Not to get into the old pissing contest, but just this past weekend I tipped over 100%. It was a relatively small bill, but the waitress was SMOKING and she did the best job that I've ever seen. In a group of 4 (me and 3 friends) she probably made 50-55 bucks.

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[Dead]

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Waiters and waitresses only get like 2.18/hr base pay. They rely on tips.

If the service is TRULY awful, then I will tip 15-20%. But it is rare that I receive bad service.

Otherwise it's ~30%.

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I'm glad our resident socialist has chimed in with his standard entitlement speech. Waiters and waitresses are entitled to above standard tips, regardless of merit. If you think anything different, obviously it's just that you're cheap.

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Thanks. Because you aren't a socialist, right? One would figure otherwise, from reading your posts in the politics forum. And I'm not a socialist fyi.

[Soul Daddy]

Does everyone tip the same % for all services? 20% for the pizza delivery? Cabbie? Shoeshine? Oriental massage?

I'm all about the 20-25% at a restaurant, but the pizza guy gets $2 no matter what.

[Edge34]

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but the pizza guy gets $2 no matter what.

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OK, good point. I'm guilty of this too - normally if a pizza comes to like 17, 18 bucks, I'll just grab a 20 and its assumed that my tip is included. The delivery guy doesn't even have to go out of his way to be overly friendly, hence fairly standard tip.

[The Truth]

I think people should get paid about what its worth to do their job. So, non-specialized labor that requires no school or really any special skills.. this includes poker dealers, waiters and pizza dilevery... I feel should all get paid fairly similar wages. Exact amt of wage depends on area of the country and living expenses etc.
In this group, I feel poker dealers are way overpaid. I was a poker dealer for awhile in high school, and the money I made was sick compared to a normal by the hour job.
Thats what I think, what I actually tip is higher than what I believe they should get paid, dunno why i overtip. Pizza guy is usually whatever rounds up to 20. so on average probly 3.50. cause sometimes its like 5-6 and sometimes its 2. I guess just cause its easy for me.

Waiter is 15% always round up to nearest bill so in like a 42 dollar meal ill just leave 50. never less than 15% unless service is god awful, and even then I feel bad about not tipping unless they offended me or something.

Poker dealer is a dollar a pot so long as I dont just steal the blinds, I usually dont tip when I just still the blinds. not always true though. I feel like a jackass sometimes dragging like a 6-7k no limit pot and then tossing a dollar, knowing most of the other players would be throwing like a hundred. So I break down and toss a bit more. Everyone else at the table doesnt realize im doing this to eat, so I cant afford to tip away X bb per 100.

shrug
sorry for the post /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[apd138]

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That being said, if they suck ass I have left just a note telling them that.

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This is an a**hole move.

Waiters and waitresses only get like 2.18/hr base pay. They rely on tips.

If the service is TRULY awful, then I will tip 15-20%. But it is rare that I receive bad service.

Otherwise it's ~30%.

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This is only true in some states (not here). I am not opposed to leaving nothing. I tip based on service alone. In fact, my first OOT post was an essay on not tipping. Bonus points to whoever digs it up.

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My mistake. But in the states where they don't get minimum wage(NY is one of them) it is truely an a**hole move.

[/ QUOTE ] This is a common misconception for example in Virginia I got paid $2.18 an hour like you suggest but that was always taken out for taxes, I rarely got a penny on my paycheck. I didn't have the option to declare a tip ammount it was simply taken out. I also had to tip out 3% which means if every customer left no tip I would be paying 3% plus any additional taxes they couldn't take out on the $2.18(I believe I'm sketchy on how taxes work) to serve people.

[astroglide]

i already pointed out that the 2.18 wage thing is effectively false. with no tips they'll still make 5.15/hr.

[ggbman]

I feel that the 20-25% range is appropriate.

[BiffMan]

So what's the standard to tip for takeout? Say you call in an order to your favorite local pizza place or restaurant and you go there to pick it up at the bar or cash register or whatnot... Do you tip for that, and if so, then how much?

That one's always been a bit of a quandry for me. For those of you who have been on the service side of that one, are you expecting a tip? I generally tip at least a little bit since there was some effort involved in packaging up the order and making sure it's all there, but not as much as I'd tip if I were sitting being waited on for an hour.

Is there a standard for tipping a takeout order? Never been sure if people think I'm weird when I do tip, or cheap if I don't.

[beerbandit]

i usually do

i pick up work lunch a lot, i usually leave a couple bucks --- there are only three of us, but we order from the same places pretty consistently and are orders are always correct


and the key -- we always get enough crackers when we get chili or soup


cheers

[Soul Daddy]

'tis a good question. When I bartended, takeouts were my responsibility, and could be an enormous pain. Tips, other than the loose change, were not a normal occurence, so I'd say they're not expecting them. But yeah, you should throw a couple of bucks for their trouble.

[fluxrad]

Standard tip for takeout is like 10% or thereabouts. You figure the bartender usually has to take care of it and while it's not the "high touch" work one usually associates with food service, they're also not just slapping your [censored] on a conveyor belt.

I usually tip $1 or $2 on a $20 bill at my local take out burger joint.

[SpearsBritney]

Bad service = 15%
Average service = 20%
Good service = 25%
Really hot waitress = Depends how drunk/stupid I am

[BiffMan]

Good to hear... 10% is around what I usually do for takeout and if it wasn't a common occurence, then I'm glad to have been nicer than the average fellow. My main concern was that people wouldn't think I was being cheap by not tipping &gt;=15% for takeout.

[MarkL444]

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same old thread. inevitably some loser will chime in saying that anyone who has never worked for tips should be forced to at some point in their life.

tip whatever you want. i think tipping anything more than 30% is totally stupid, but that's fine if you do it. i usually tip a little more than 20%, but if the service is crap i could go as low at 10%. if it's truly horrid i have no problem leaving nothing if it's the waitresses fault. i'm not just talking about food taking long to come out, i'm saying if the waitress is actually neglecting you as a customer, and you can tell.

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once again, daryn telling it like it is.

[InchoateHand]

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Bad service = 15%
Average service = 20%
Good service = 25%
Really hot waitress = Depends how drunk/stupid I am

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I think we all know you're pretty much stupid all the time as made clear by the fact that you tip 15% for bad service.