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mscags
04-10-2005, 03:55 AM
Does anyone else find that they lose a lot more money with KQ, KJ, QJ, suited and unsuited than anything else? I don't know if I'm playing them wrong or what, but I only win with them around 30% of the time according to PT. Anybody else finding this? /images/graemlins/confused.gif
cmwck
04-10-2005, 03:59 AM
I am winning with all of these hands, but both our sample sizes are probably way too small. You would have to look up each hand's average EV.
Play more hands and they should even out assuming you play correctly.
After 17,000 hands at Party .50/1 I have the following stats:
KQs .64 BB/100
KQo .63
KJs .91
KJo .36
QJs .35
QJo .80
Out of the $998 I've made in that period $370 of it has come from those hands. Perhaps you're not playing them strong enough when you're ahead and getting out soon enough when you're beaten.
When you flop a strong draw in a multiway pot make sure you get all the money in there on the flop that you can. The check/raise from early position is your friend here. Then adjust your play on the turn as needed when you hit/miss your draw.
bozlax
04-10-2005, 01:47 PM
Here's an example hand I just played...what do you do on the flop, and why?
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero calls.
Flop: (4.50 SB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ?
Bigdaddydvo
04-10-2005, 01:50 PM
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Hero ?
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Checks and folds.
bozlax
04-10-2005, 01:51 PM
Oops. I meant for the OP to answer, and you forgot the "why."
Bigdaddy is the kid who always blurted out the answers in math class. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Bigdaddydvo
04-10-2005, 02:25 PM
LOL...sorry for the lack of explanation.
You check and fold because you have nothing, no pair, no draw, and there's an overcard to your two on the board. I don't think this is a pot we bluff at.
Sasnak
04-10-2005, 02:33 PM
No. KQ and KQs are decent winners and +EV long term starting hands. I'll limp KQ UTG while raising with KQs. Post flop play is key with these hands.
mscags
04-10-2005, 02:43 PM
I think I would wait and see what happens first. If he checks to me I would probably bet and see if I could catch a free card on the next street if not bet again if I thought he was weak. If he bet I would fold because by calling preflop I'm dominated by just about any hand he would raise with besides a few like 10-10 JJ AJ and KJ
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