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_AK
04-09-2005, 12:26 AM
MP3 is super solid....and I put him on an overpair....BB is a loose agrresive player....he is most likely to be on a flush draw but could easily have it already as I have seen him trap before.

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.25 BB (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

BB ($8.50)
Hero ($40.25)
UTG+1 ($22.15)
UTG+2 ($9.90)
MP1 ($37.50)
MP2 ($14.95)
MP3 ($25.10)
CO ($6.20)
Button ($19.50)
SB ($40.45)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif.
Hero calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $1.1</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls $0.85, Hero calls $0.85.

Flop: ($3.40) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $3.4</font>, BB calls $3.40, Hero ??

rikz
04-09-2005, 01:26 AM
Why not lead into the monotoned board with a pot-sized bet on the flop. You'll probably win unless someone has the flush or wants to gamble with a big spade. You can fold to a raise. You can bet again on the turn, then make a blocking bet on the river. Even vs. a made flush, you have outs to a full house. If a villain goes crazy over the top, or yet a 4th spade falls, you can fold.

I don't like checking your set here. What do you think about betting instead of checking on the flop?

theredpill5
04-09-2005, 01:53 AM
At those stakes, no one is going to fold to a pot -sized bet. I've tried. Just bet and hope no more spades hit. Nobody is going to fold. Whatever you do, don't call an all-in on the flop or push all-in unless the board pairs.

_AK
04-09-2005, 01:58 AM
I was going for the checkraise against the preflop raiser..he doesn't check a flop...worst case is i might get a free card (to make me a the fullhouse and if the BB already had the flush).

So i did end up raising it up here on the flop.

_AK
04-09-2005, 02:05 AM
which brings me to part 2.....my checkraise was called by MP and the BB called as well (which put him all in...doesn't really help me...he could still be on a draw and he knows he will see both cards).

Blank hits on fourth street....I am first to act.

What do I do now?

swolfe
04-09-2005, 02:23 AM
lead the flop, you need to get some info and that will be the cheapest way.

if you get raised, then you're probably behind...people won't generally raise a flush board without the flush or the A of the suit.

..or they check-raise a set /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

_AK
04-10-2005, 02:09 AM
ok, thanks for the help everyone...consensus is raise the flop...no arguments here then.