Bubble/ITM play - A Hand History (long)

[Raiser]

Hey guys.

I think it's fun when others do this, so I decided before this tourney that I'd post my bubble/ITM play to see how bad I suck.

Party $22.

Any and all comments welcome.

***** Hand History for Game 1861425322 *****
6thplace finished in sixth place.
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 11104986) - Thu Apr 07 22:39:28 EDT 2005
Table Table 15067 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 3: shtoinkboy (1890)
Seat 4: bolla (1975)
Seat 6: whosmydaddy (2235)
Seat 8: ubeat (920)
Seat 9: HERO (980)
ubeat posts small blind (50)
HERO posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Qd, 2c ]
shtoinkboy calls (100)
bolla calls (100)
ubeat: wouldve beat u
whosmydaddy folds.
ubeat raises (870) to 920
ubeat is all-In.
HERO folds.
shtoinkboy folds.
bolla calls (820)
Creating Main Pot with $2040 with ubeat
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ah, 9h, 8d ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Ac ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 7d ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2040 |
Board: [ Ah 9h 8d Ac 7d ]
shtoinkboy balance 1790, lost 100 (folded)
bolla balance 1055, lost 920 [ Kd Th ] [ a pair of aces -- Ah,Ac,Kd,Th,9h ]
whosmydaddy balance 2235, didn't bet (folded)
ubeat balance 2040, bet 920, collected 2040, net +1120 [ Qs 9d ] [ two pairs, aces and nines -- Ah,Ac,Qs,9d,9h ]
HERO balance 880, lost 100 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1861429143 *****
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 11104986) - Thu Apr 07 22:40:04 EDT 2005
Table Table 15067 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 3: shtoinkboy (1790)
Seat 4: bolla (1055)
Seat 6: whosmydaddy (2235)
Seat 8: ubeat (2040)
Seat 9: HERO (880)
HERO posts small blind (50)
shtoinkboy posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Tc, 7s ]
ubeat: good call
ubeat: bad result
bolla folds.
bolla: life story lol
whosmydaddy folds.
ubeat folds.
HERO raises (830) to 880
HERO is all-In.
shtoinkboy folds.
Creating Main Pot with $980 with HERO
** Summary **
Main Pot: 980
shtoinkboy balance 1690, lost 100 (folded)
bolla balance 1055, didn't bet (folded)
whosmydaddy balance 2235, didn't bet (folded)
ubeat balance 2040, didn't bet (folded)
HERO balance 980, bet 880, collected 980, net +100

***** Hand History for Game 1861432619 *****
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 11104986) - Thu Apr 07 22:40:38 EDT 2005
Table Table 15067 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 3: shtoinkboy (1690)
Seat 4: bolla (1055)
Seat 6: whosmydaddy (2235)
Seat 8: ubeat (2040)
Seat 9: HERO (980)
shtoinkboy posts small blind (50)
bolla posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 2s, 8c ]
whosmydaddy folds.
ubeat folds.
HERO folds.
shtoinkboy calls (50)
bolla checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ As, 6h, Qc ]
shtoinkboy checks.
bolla bets (250)
shtoinkboy folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 450
Board: [ As 6h Qc ]
shtoinkboy balance 1590, lost 100 (folded)
bolla balance 1155, bet 350, collected 450, net +100
whosmydaddy balance 2235, didn't bet (folded)
ubeat balance 2040, didn't bet (folded)
HERO balance 980, didn't bet (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1861435820 *****
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 11104986) - Thu Apr 07 22:41:09 EDT 2005
Table Table 15067 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 3: shtoinkboy (1590)
Seat 4: bolla (1155)
Seat 6: whosmydaddy (2235)
Seat 8: ubeat (2040)
Seat 9: HERO (980)
bolla posts small blind (50)
whosmydaddy posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 6h, 3h ]
ubeat folds.
HERO folds.
shtoinkboy folds.
bolla raises (150) to 200
whosmydaddy calls (100)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 4c, 5d, 5s ]
bolla bets (200)
whosmydaddy folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 600
Board: [ 4c 5d 5s ]
shtoinkboy balance 1590, didn't bet (folded)
bolla balance 1355, bet 400, collected 600, net +200
whosmydaddy balance 2035, lost 200 (folded)
ubeat balance 2040, didn't bet (folded)
HERO balance 980, didn't bet (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1861443500 *****
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 11104986) - Thu Apr 07 22:42:24 EDT 2005
Table Table 15067 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 3: shtoinkboy (1590)
Seat 4: bolla (1355)
Seat 6: whosmydaddy (2035)
Seat 8: ubeat (2040)
Seat 9: HERO (980)
whosmydaddy posts small blind (50)
ubeat posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 9h, Ah ]
HERO raises (980) to 980
HERO is all-In.
shtoinkboy folds.
bolla folds.
whosmydaddy folds.
ubeat folds.
Creating Main Pot with $1130 with HERO
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1130
shtoinkboy balance 1590, didn't bet (folded)
bolla balance 1355, didn't bet (folded)
whosmydaddy balance 1985, lost 50 (folded)
ubeat balance 1940, lost 100 (folded)
HERO balance 1130, bet 980, collected 1130, net +150

***** Hand History for Game 1861446904 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 11104986) - Thu Apr 07 22:42:57 EDT 2005
Table Table 15067 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 3: shtoinkboy (1590)
Seat 4: bolla (1355)
Seat 6: whosmydaddy (1985)
Seat 8: ubeat (1940)
Seat 9: HERO (1130)
ubeat posts small blind (100)
HERO posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Ac, 2d ]
shtoinkboy raises (1000) to 1000
bolla folds.
whosmydaddy folds.
ubeat folds.
HERO folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1300
shtoinkboy balance 1890, bet 1000, collected 1300, net +300
bolla balance 1355, didn't bet (folded)
whosmydaddy balance 1985, didn't bet (folded)
ubeat balance 1840, lost 100 (folded)
HERO balance 930, lost 200 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1861449651 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 11104986) - Thu Apr 07 22:43:24 EDT 2005
Table Table 15067 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 3: shtoinkboy (1890)
Seat 4: bolla (1355)
Seat 6: whosmydaddy (1985)
Seat 8: ubeat (1840)
Seat 9: HERO (930)
HERO posts small blind (100)
shtoinkboy posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Tc, Ks ]
bolla calls (200)
whosmydaddy calls (200)
ubeat folds.
HERO calls (100)
shtoinkboy checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 4c, 5s, 8c ]
HERO checks.
shtoinkboy checks.
bolla checks.
whosmydaddy bets (1785)
whosmydaddy is all-In.
HERO folds.
shtoinkboy folds.
bolla folds.
Creating Main Pot with $2585 with whosmydaddy
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2585
Board: [ 4c 5s 8c ]
shtoinkboy balance 1690, lost 200 (folded)
bolla balance 1155, lost 200 (folded)
whosmydaddy balance 2585, bet 1985, collected 2585, net +600
ubeat balance 1840, didn't bet (folded)
HERO balance 730, lost 200 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1861456921 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 11104986) - Thu Apr 07 22:44:35 EDT 2005
Table Table 15067 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 3: shtoinkboy (1690)
Seat 4: bolla (1155)
Seat 6: whosmydaddy (2585)
Seat 8: ubeat (1840)
Seat 9: HERO (730)
shtoinkboy posts small blind (100)
bolla posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 4h, 5d ]
whosmydaddy folds.
ubeat folds.
HERO folds.
shtoinkboy raises (900) to 1000
bolla folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1200
shtoinkboy balance 1890, bet 1000, collected 1200, net +200
bolla balance 955, lost 200 (folded)
whosmydaddy balance 2585, didn't bet (folded)
ubeat balance 1840, didn't bet (folded)
HERO balance 730, didn't bet (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1861461090 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 11104986) - Thu Apr 07 22:45:16 EDT 2005
Table Table 15067 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 3: shtoinkboy (1890)
Seat 4: bolla (955)
Seat 6: whosmydaddy (2585)
Seat 8: ubeat (1840)
Seat 9: HERO (730)
bolla posts small blind (100)
whosmydaddy posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 3h, Jc ]
ubeat raises (400) to 400
HERO folds.
shtoinkboy folds.
bolla raises (855) to 955
bolla is all-In.
whosmydaddy folds.
ubeat calls (555)
Creating Main Pot with $2110 with bolla
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3d, 6c, 9h ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 7c ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Qd ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2110 |
Board: [ 3d 6c 9h 7c Qd ]
shtoinkboy balance 1890, didn't bet (folded)
bolla balance 2110, bet 955, collected 2110, net +1155 [ As 9d ] [ a pair of nines -- As,Qd,9d,9h,7c ]
whosmydaddy balance 2385, lost 200 (folded)
ubeat balance 885, lost 955 [ 2d Ad ] [ high card ace -- Ad,Qd,9h,7c,6c ]
HERO balance 730, didn't bet (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1861464557 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 11104986) - Thu Apr 07 22:45:51 EDT 2005
Table Table 15067 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 3: shtoinkboy (1890)
Seat 4: bolla (2110)
Seat 6: whosmydaddy (2385)
Seat 8: ubeat (885)
Seat 9: HERO (730)
whosmydaddy posts small blind (100)
ubeat posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 8h, 4h ]
HERO folds.
shtoinkboy folds.
bolla calls (200)
whosmydaddy folds.
ubeat raises (450) to 650
bolla calls (450)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7d, Tc, 2s ]
ubeat bets (235)
ubeat is all-In.
bolla calls (235)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Qs ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 7c ]
Creating Main Pot with $1870 with ubeat
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1870 |
Board: [ 7d Tc 2s Qs 7c ]
shtoinkboy balance 1890, didn't bet (folded)
bolla balance 1225, lost 885 [ 4d 4c ] [ two pairs, sevens and fours -- Qs,7d,7c,4d,4c ]
whosmydaddy balance 2285, lost 100 (folded)
ubeat balance 1870, bet 885, collected 1870, net +985 [ Ah As ] [ two pairs, aces and sevens -- Ah,As,Qs,7d,7c ]
HERO balance 730, didn't bet (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1861469981 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 11104986) - Thu Apr 07 22:46:45 EDT 2005
Table Table 15067 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 3: shtoinkboy (1890)
Seat 4: bolla (1225)
Seat 6: whosmydaddy (2285)
Seat 8: ubeat (1870)
Seat 9: HERO (730)
ubeat posts small blind (100)
HERO posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 5c, Jh ]
bolla: nh
ubeat: ty
shtoinkboy raises (1890) to 1890
shtoinkboy is all-In.
bolla folds.
whosmydaddy folds.
ubeat calls (1770)
ubeat is all-In.
HERO folds.
Creating Main Pot with $3940 with ubeat
Creating Side Pot 1 with $20 with shtoinkboy
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3h, Js, 9s ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Td ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 6d ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 3940 | Side Pot 1: 20
Board: [ 3h Js 9s Td 6d ]
shtoinkboy balance 20, bet 1890, collected 20, lost -1870 [ As Ks ] [ high card ace -- As,Ks,Js,Td,9s ]
bolla balance 1225, didn't bet (folded)
whosmydaddy balance 2285, didn't bet (folded)
ubeat balance 3940, bet 1870, collected 3940, net +2070 [ Jd Ac ] [ a pair of jacks -- Ac,Jd,Js,Td,9s ]
HERO balance 530, lost 200 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1861473106 *****
ubeat: sweeeet
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 11104986) - Thu Apr 07 22:47:16 EDT 2005
Table Table 15067 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 3: shtoinkboy (20)
Seat 4: bolla (1225)
Seat 6: whosmydaddy (2285)
Seat 8: ubeat (3940)
Seat 9: HERO (530)
HERO posts small blind (100)
shtoinkboy posts big blind (20)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Qs, Ad ]
bolla: wow
bolla folds.
shtoinkboy: you lucky fucker
ubeat: happened to me so many times
shtoinkboy: i dont care
whosmydaddy folds.
ubeat folds.
Creating Main Pot with $40 with shtoinkboy
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 5s, Ac, Qh ]
shtoinkboy: still lucky as shittt
ubeat: i dont even feel bad
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Ks ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Kh ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 40 | Side Pot 1: 80
Board: [ 5s Ac Qh Ks Kh ]
shtoinkboy balance 0, lost 20 [ 4d 9d ] [ a pair of kings -- Ac,Ks,Kh,Qh,9d ]
bolla balance 1225, didn't bet (folded)
whosmydaddy balance 2285, didn't bet (folded)
ubeat balance 3940, didn't bet (folded)
HERO balance 550, bet 100, collected 120, net +20 [ Qs Ad ] [ two pairs, aces and kings -- Ad,Ac,Ks,Kh,Qs ]

***** Hand History for Game 1861476227 *****
shtoinkboy finished in fifth place.
ubeat: [censored] yeah
ubeat: so
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 11104986) - Thu Apr 07 22:47:47 EDT 2005
Table Table 15067 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 4: bolla (1225)
Seat 6: whosmydaddy (2285)
Seat 8: ubeat (3940)
Seat 9: HERO (550)
bolla posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 5c, 2s ]
bolla: boohoo
shtoinkboy: well u got outplayed
whosmydaddy raises (400) to 400
ubeat folds.
HERO folds.
bolla calls (200)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8s, 6h, Jd ]
bolla checks.
ubeat: wow
whosmydaddy bets (1885)
whosmydaddy is all-In.
bolla: go figure
bolla folds.
Creating Main Pot with $2685 with whosmydaddy
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2685
Board: [ 8s 6h Jd ]
bolla balance 825, lost 400 (folded)
whosmydaddy balance 2685, bet 2285, collected 2685, net +400
ubeat balance 3940, didn't bet (folded)
HERO balance 550, didn't bet (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1861483595 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 11104986) - Thu Apr 07 22:49:01 EDT 2005
Table Table 15067 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 4: bolla (825)
Seat 6: whosmydaddy (2685)
Seat 8: ubeat (3940)
Seat 9: HERO (550)
whosmydaddy posts small blind (100)
ubeat posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Ks, 5c ]
HERO raises (550) to 550
HERO is all-In.
bolla folds.
whosmydaddy folds.
ubeat calls (350)
Creating Main Pot with $1200 with HERO
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 5h, Th, 8c ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 9s ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 3c ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1200 |
Board: [ 5h Th 8c 9s 3c ]
bolla balance 825, didn't bet (folded)
whosmydaddy balance 2585, lost 100 (folded)
ubeat balance 3390, lost 550 [ 2h Jd ] [ high card jack -- Jd,Th,9s,8c,5h ]
HERO balance 1200, bet 550, collected 1200, net +650 [ Ks 5c ] [ a pair of fives -- Ks,Th,9s,5c,5h ]

***** Hand History for Game 1861486794 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 11104986) - Thu Apr 07 22:49:33 EDT 2005
Table Table 15067 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 4: bolla (825)
Seat 6: whosmydaddy (2585)
Seat 8: ubeat (3390)
Seat 9: HERO (1200)
ubeat posts small blind (100)
HERO posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Qs, Ac ]
bolla raises (400) to 400
whosmydaddy folds.
ubeat folds.
HERO calls (200)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Tc, Qd, Js ]
HERO bets (800)
HERO is all-In.
bolla calls (425)
bolla is all-In.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2c ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 6c ]
Creating Main Pot with $1750 with bolla
Creating Side Pot 1 with $375 with HERO
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1750 | Side Pot 1: 375
Board: [ Tc Qd Js 2c 6c ]
bolla balance 0, lost 825 [ Qh 5h ] [ a pair of queens -- Qh,Qd,Js,Tc,6c ]
whosmydaddy balance 2585, didn't bet (folded)
ubeat balance 3290, lost 100 (folded)
HERO balance 2125, bet 1200, collected 2125, net +925 [ Qs Ac ] [ a pair of queens with ace kicker -- Ac,Qs,Qd,Js,TcAc(kicker card) ]

***** Hand History for Game 1861492180 *****
bolla finished in fourth place.
300/600 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 11104986) - Thu Apr 07 22:50:23 EDT 2005
Table Table 15067 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 6: whosmydaddy (2585)
Seat 8: ubeat (3290)
Seat 9: HERO (2125)
HERO posts small blind (150)
whosmydaddy posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 4d, Kh ]
ubeat raises (600) to 600
HERO folds.
ubeat: no trifecta
whosmydaddy raises (2285) to 2585
whosmydaddy is all-In.
ubeat calls (1985)
Creating Main Pot with $5320 with whosmydaddy
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 5d, 8c, Jc ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 9s ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 5320 |
Board: [ 5d 8c Jc 2h 9s ]
whosmydaddy balance 0, lost 2585 [ Ad Js ] [ a pair of jacks -- Ad,Js,Jc,9s,8c ]
ubeat balance 6025, bet 2585, collected 5320, net +2735 [ 9h 9c ] [ three of a kind, nines -- Jc,9h,9c,9s,8c ]
HERO balance 1975, lost 150 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1861497765 *****
whosmydaddy finished in third place and won $40.
300/600 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 11104986) - Thu Apr 07 22:51:18 EDT 2005
Table Table 15067 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 8: ubeat (6025)
Seat 9: HERO (1975)
HERO posts small blind (150)
ubeat posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Jh, Th ]
HERO raises (1825) to 1975
HERO is all-In.
ubeat calls (1675)
Creating Main Pot with $3950 with HERO
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6d, Ts, Kc ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2d ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Qd ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 3950 |
Board: [ 6d Ts Kc 2d Qd ]
ubeat balance 8000, bet 1975, collected 3950, net +1975 [ Qs 8c ] [ a pair of queens -- Kc,Qs,Qd,Ts,8c ]
HERO balance 0, lost 1975 [ Jh Th ] [ a pair of tens -- Kc,Qd,Jh,Th,Ts ]

[Raiser]

Wow, just realized that the ITM play is exactly 2 hands. Exciting.

Still I think there are some hands worth discussing here.

[wuwei]

[ QUOTE ]
***** Hand History for Game 1861449651 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 11104986) - Thu Apr 07 22:43:24 EDT 2005
Table Table 15067 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 3: shtoinkboy (1890)
Seat 4: bolla (1355)
Seat 6: whosmydaddy (1985)
Seat 8: ubeat (1840)
Seat 9: HERO (930)
HERO posts small blind (100)
shtoinkboy posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Tc, Ks ]
bolla calls (200)
whosmydaddy calls (200)
ubeat folds.
HERO calls (100)

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm not a big fan of the complete here for roughly 1/8th of my stack. If the limper is pretty loose and could be on a wide range of hands I'll push. Otherwise, fold.

[syka16]

Fold Tc, 7s in the SB. Fold/Raise KTo. Push 84s UTG. I assume the second AQo is a stop and go - nice play.

[Unparagoned]

yup, yup, I'm folding this hand.

[Raiser]

There are 2 limpers in this hand.

With 1 loose limper I will push here, but with 2 limpers, I thought I was getting a decent price to try and flop a hand. But, I see your point about calling off 1/8 of my stack.

[Unparagoned]

***** Hand History for Game 1861486794 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 11104986) - Thu Apr 07 22:49:33 EDT 2005
Table Table 15067 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 4: bolla (825)
Seat 6: whosmydaddy (2585)
Seat 8: ubeat (3390)
Seat 9: HERO (1200)
ubeat posts small blind (100)
HERO posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Qs, Ac ]
bolla raises (400) to 400
whosmydaddy folds.
ubeat folds.
HERO calls (200)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Tc, Qd, Js ]
HERO bets (800)
HERO is all-In.
bolla calls (425)
bolla is all-In.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2c ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 6c ]
Creating Main Pot with $1750 with bolla
Creating Side Pot 1 with $375 with HERO
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1750 | Side Pot 1: 375
Board: [ Tc Qd Js 2c 6c ]
bolla balance 0, lost 825 [ Qh 5h ] [ a pair of queens -- Qh,Qd,Js,Tc,6c ]
whosmydaddy balance 2585, didn't bet (folded)
ubeat balance 3290, lost 100 (folded)
HERO balance 2125, bet 1200, collected 2125, net +925 [ Qs Ac ] [ a pair of queens with ace kicker -- Ac,Qs,Qd,Js,TcAc(kicker card) ]

Why not just get the chips in now? bolla put in half his stack, if he wants to fold after you put him in, let him, I don't really imagine that he will. I don't really understand why a stop 'n go would be applied in this situation...

[Raiser]

Hey syka,

I see why I want to steal with the 84s hand, but it just seemed like too obvious a play from UTG and I felt there would be a decent shot I'd get called. If I had a little more hand, I'd feel better pushing here. Is this paranoid thinking?

The AQ hand was a stop n go. I love it when those work.

[Raiser]

I guess I thought the stop n go would be good here because I wanted him to fold. I thought the stop n go was the best way to make that happen.

Honestly, I never even considered pushing here as his minraise smelled a little funny. I'd love to hear more thoughts on this play though.

[Unparagoned]

[ QUOTE ]
Hey syka,

I see why I want to steal with the 84s hand, but it just seemed like too obvious a play from UTG and I felt there would be a decent shot I'd get called. If I had a little more hand, I'd feel better pushing here. Is this paranoid thinking?

The AQ hand was a stop n go. I love it when those work.

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Why does a little better hand make you happier? Let's assume that you are getting called by a card that is bigger than your best card regardless. If that's the case, then why does it matter what your cards are so long as they are not in the villain's hand? Your odds are going to be roughly the same anyways.

Also, I don't get the AQ hand. Isn't a stop 'n go usually intended to push someone off of a raising hand that they miss with? You're not pushing anyone off of a hand here and he is almost certainly putting all of his chips in anyways. Perhaps I am simply looking at the wrong hand???

[Unparagoned]

He has 800 chips, he put in half of them. He's not folding pre-flop. If he is, pahhh, whatever. You're not folding your hand and if he has a decent hand that is better than yours pre-flop, he's not folding regardless of what comes on the flop. I just don't really think this qualifies as a stop 'n go.

[Raiser]

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Why does a little better hand make you happier? Let's assume that you are getting called by a card that is bigger than your best card regardless. If that's the case, then why does it matter what your cards are so long as they are not in the villain's hand? Your odds are going to be roughly the same anyways.

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A "little better" is just a way of saying that I didn't feel that things were desperate enough at that stage to be in a push any 2 situation. I'm assuming that if you want me to push this hand this is a "any two" spot in your mind, right?

[Raiser]

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He has 800 chips, he put in half of them. He's not folding pre-flop. If he is, pahhh, whatever. You're not folding your hand and if he has a decent hand that is better than yours pre-flop, he's not folding regardless of what comes on the flop. I just don't really think this qualifies as a stop 'n go.

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First off, thanks for all your comments.

I think where we are differing here is that, at the time, I wanted him to fold his hand. I knew he wouldn't do that preflop after his min-raise so the next best option to make him fold is to use the stop n go. The chances aren't great that he's folding after the flop, but it is better than preflop. You are right. I'm getting my money in no matter what. I just wanted to give him a tougher decision.

I guess if this doesn't qualify for a good stop n go spot, I'll just have to admit that I don't understand the concept???

[syka16]

you can or can't either way you're both playing for all your chips. But the reason I like a stop and go here is, from what I recall he hasn't shown down a hand and by just calling it might help you develop a tight table image OMO.

[Unparagoned]

Right, I get what you're saying, but what I want to say to you is that his stack just isn't big enough for a stop 'n go to be effective. What hands will he fold after the flop? Is he folding a missed AK? Is he folding 77 when two overcards hit the board? I am pretty confident that neither of those is the case. If he is willing to fold post-flop, why wouldn't he be willing to fold pre-flop as well?

Here's the other thing. Let's say he sees the flop with K5 instead of Q5 and the flop brings a K, clearly he's calling. If, as you have posited, he will fold K5 to a missed flop, why would you want that? If he really is willing to fold post-flop the only hands he's folding are ones that you have beat anyways. So, if he is the sort of player who is actually willing to fold getting 3:1 with 2xBB left behind, why would you want to give him that opportunity?

[syka16]

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I see why I want to steal with the 84s hand, but it just seemed like too obvious a play from UTG and I felt there would be a decent shot I'd get called. If I had a little more hand, I'd feel better pushing here. Is this paranoid thinking?



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cards don't matter in that spot. there aren't enough players behind you to ensure a call. It's really obvious but even when a loose caller decides to widen their calling range the dead money makes a 60:40 close to even EV... since their adding hands that would be 60:40.

[Unparagoned]

I am not sure whether this is any two ground (but it's gotta be close). You would need to sit down and play with pokerstove a little bit to figure out whether it really is "any two" territory.

[Raiser]

I see where you are coming from. Answer this for me.

When the other short stack min-raises, committing half of his stack, what is your thought process? I think I must be getting hung up on his min-raise.

Bleh, I have a lot to learn.

[wuwei]

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There are 2 limpers in this hand.

With 1 loose limper I will push here, but with 2 limpers, I thought I was getting a decent price to try and flop a hand. But, I see your point about calling off 1/8 of my stack.

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Oops. Two limpers and I'm folding every time.

[Unparagoned]

My though process is something along these lines, "Hmmm, a min-raise, what is he doing? Either he has a monster and is looking for action or else he doesn't really understand short stack play. Either way, I have AQ and I am not folding to a player with only 800 chips..."

I don't think you mentioned a level of play, but I would imagine it is somewhere between 10-30, probably a 10 or a 20? It is altogether possible that the villain has AA-KK and is looking for action, but if that's the case, I say, "oh well, wish I hadn't been dealt AQ up against AA-QQ." I have never played at the higher levels (50-200), so I won't presume to comment on what a player in those circumstances might min-raise, but at the levels I play (10-30), the guy could have all sorts of holdings, many of which you dominate and the rest of which you are probably ahead or in a conflip against.