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prunch
04-08-2005, 08:47 AM
just a quick question about the hourly rate of the 11's and 22's at party. For people who play these regularly whats the best hourly rate u can expect. My friend reckons its quite easy to make $30 an hour on the 11s but he was dropped many times as a child!!! Would $30 an hour even be feasible at the 22s for an average/good player?? any feedback welcome.

1C5
04-08-2005, 08:59 AM
I guess it is possible if you play enough tables at once.

sofere
04-08-2005, 09:06 AM
Alls you gotta do is do a little math.

Lets say your 4 tabling in sets (start all at once, don't open another until all are completed). Say it takes 45 minutes to complete a set.

$30/hr * 45/60 = $22.5 per set
$22.5/4 = $5.625/tourney

5.625/11 = 51% ROI - UNSUSTAINABLE
5.625/22 = 25.6% ROI - achievable.

dfscott
04-08-2005, 10:06 AM
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Alls you gotta do is do a little math.

Lets say your 4 tabling in sets (start all at once, don't open another until all are completed). Say it takes 45 minutes to complete a set.

$30/hr * 45/60 = $22.5 per set
$22.5/4 = $5.625/tourney

5.625/11 = 51% ROI - UNSUSTAINABLE
5.625/22 = 25.6% ROI - achievable.

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Just 8-table and you're golden...

bathroompants
04-08-2005, 01:13 PM
I'm currently 4 tabling 20s with a 24% ROI, and making $35.34/hour.

A part of it might be that I don't play in sets, and constantly have 4 tables open.

The Yugoslavian
04-08-2005, 01:32 PM
Sure....it's possible to make over 100k/yr even @ the $11s....

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12 tabling = 20 tables/hr
25% ROI in the $11s = $2.75/stt

40hrs/week/50weeks/year = 40,000 STTs - @ $2.75/stt

$110,000 without rakeback (but only $120,000 with....)
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The ones who could won't...b/c they play higher.

Yugoslav

prunch
04-08-2005, 01:33 PM
cheers guy's. You's make it sound so easy. My maths teacher always told me I'd need maths in everyday life, I guess he's having the last laugh now, the ba***rd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

prunch
04-08-2005, 01:37 PM
sounds like a plan!!!! now all I have to do is get ROI into non-negative digits and i'm laughing all the way to the bank

multifast1
04-08-2005, 01:42 PM
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sounds like a plan!!!! now all I have to do is get ROI into non-negative digits and i'm laughing all the way to the bank

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Yeah, the math IS the easy part!! The required ROI isn't so "easy".

ewing55
04-08-2005, 07:02 PM
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now all I have to do is get ROI into non-negative digits

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Just make it up in volume /images/graemlins/grin.gif

johnnybeef
04-08-2005, 07:14 PM
figure about 5.5 tables per hour...30/5.5=5.45 per table which after rake back can be reduced to 5.00 per table. this would need an roi of around 22.5% (off the top of my head) which is attainable but difficult. considering that these calculations are made assuming 4 tables, id say that a $30 hourly rate would be reasonable if one where 8 tabling the 22s.

ilya
04-08-2005, 08:35 PM
It's possible at the $22s but you'd have to either 8-table or be a very strong 4-tabler (about 23% ROI 4-tabling non-stop).

I guess it might be possible at the $11s if you were an excellent 8- or 12-tabler. It would be a very stupid way of making profit from poker though, as it would slow improvement to a crawl.

Maulik
04-09-2005, 03:37 AM
this should be your plan of action:

beat the $11s play at least 500 NO LESS!
$22s at least 250

once you have a feel of the $22s go on to the $33s. Its what I've done and its very forgiving. Move down until you aren't bleeding chips.

J-Lo
04-09-2005, 10:59 AM
Maulik, Do u play the $33's or $22's? How do u suggest an 8tabler at the $22's move up to the $33's? see my post in irie's maddness in the rhythm post.

Maulik
04-09-2005, 01:22 PM
I play the $33s during the weekend, and the $22s during the week/ day. I suggest getting a good hold of all the decisions you will face during the course of a tournament before moving to 8 tables. 8 means you aren't spending much time and most decisions are fairly automatic. That said, experience is the best teacher, coupled with this board you won't be far off form 8 tabling the $33s.

1C5
04-09-2005, 01:35 PM
Could you share your results in the 11s, 22s and 33s so far?