"Official" Live at the Bike thread (4/7)

[Kevmath]

Tonight is the POSSIBLE return of the 400/800 game to L@TB, however if Jerry Buss goes to the Staples Center to entertain Phil Jackson as expected, who knows if they'll be as interested to be on the internet.

Kevin...

[Russ McGinley]

What are the odds that they will chicken out yet again or someone will object and show a $200 NL game? I say 2-1.

[Kevmath]

I'll say it's 2-5 no 400/800 game.

Kevin...

[housenuts]

badugi? what was that other game he said they were playing?

[Shanemex]

Nice, 300/600. But WTF is badugi (sp?)

[Kevmath]

Uh oh, it's 300-600 mixed games, and those that remember how it went the first time they did mixed games it wasn't worth the effort in non-holdem games.

Kevin...

[Kashie]

I see some Known Faces!

3 games I believe Low Ball and Holdem and Omaha!

[housenuts]

this could be foolish. they aren't even able to show the hole cards.

[Kashie]

This gonna be like the 80's on espn Classic! Bummer

[Jive Dadson]

[ QUOTE ]
this could be foolish. they aren't even able to show the hole cards.

[/ QUOTE ]

Sheesh.

[housenuts]

what is a good hand in this badugi game? i know a234 of different suits is the best but that seems pretty far fetched. is an 8 low considered good?

[Kashie]

Big damn Pot ehhowwww

[Jive Dadson]

Okay guys. Admit someone screwed up bigtime and move these guys off the TV table.

[Kevmath]

This is the downfall of having the big limit game, you might as well stick in a 200 NL game if you're not able to see hole cards half the time.

On another note, for Bart/Shirley, is the automatic shuffler built into the table now?

Kevin...

[Russ McGinley]

This is unwatchable.

[housenuts]

i think basically if you have 4 different suits your hand is good.

[Kevmath]

[ QUOTE ]
This is unwatchable.

[/ QUOTE ]

They do have some taped progrmaming they could throw on here, the 1 table satellite for Dodger tickets they did last week, or a headsup match Shirley had with some other guy from 2 weeks back.

Now when they mention the Lederer "DVD", they should note that it's basically a seminar on limit holdem done at the Bellagio.

Kevin...

[Kashie]

I agree, Might as well watch reruns of poker on fox or something.

That hole in the table
is a shuffler.

[Kashie]

Even Bart is confused over whats what!

Big Mistake IMO, /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[slamduncan21]

Badugi is ba-boring.

[Jive Dadson]

With the automatic shuffler, the runover talk from the previous hand will last until the river.

[Kashie]

"badugi"

The nuts in this game is as follows:
As 2d 3h 4c

And any hand that contains one of any suit beats any hand that has two of a suit and so on. The first determining factor is the suits of the cards, and the second is the value of the cards themselves.

[kchammer]

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[Jive Dadson]

Two deuces wasn't the best hand on the flop.

[Jive Dadson]

This will be as hopeless as the Bugatti thing.

[Jive Dadson]

See you tomorrow. Tell me how it comes out.

[pc in NM]

[ QUOTE ]
Okay guys. Admit someone screwed up bigtime and move these guys off the TV table.

[/ QUOTE ]

Agreed - the Pope's funeral will have more highlights than this....

[Kashie]

Peace Jive! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Jive Dadson]

[ QUOTE ]
Peace Jive! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Peace on you too.

[Kevmath]

Hey K Chammer, they invented links for a reason dumbass.

Kevin...

[mikeyvegas]

This sucks so bad. Move a NL game to this table.

[Sykes]

Is it lagging for you guys? It's lagging for me.

[pc in NM]

I'm not so sure that Omaha wouldn't suck even if you could see the cards - but this is worthless....

[prizminferno]

Hennigan wins every pot he plays.

[Kevmath]

It seems back in the day his friends called him "World Class", only the World part stuck though.

Kevin...

[BumblBtuna]

This omaha suX!!!!!!!
/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[bnobs1]

[ QUOTE ]
Hennigan wins every pot he plays.

[/ QUOTE ]

He's getting took in 2-7

[BumblBtuna]

YEEHAW!!!!
/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[zaxx19]

Hennigan is playing>?

WTF guys why didnt you say this earlier, im watching now.

[BumblBtuna]

How much did he buy in with???? he has like 30k+ now in chips

[kchammer]

needs to be no limit omaha

[kchammer]

she sure pimps her web site alot

[Russ McGinley]

We have the best thread! Yay Kevmath.

[poison_lady]

Shirley...I love your site.

[BumblBtuna]

why da hell do they keep switching games?????
this SUX!!!!

[Kashie]

Hey Hammer why dont you crawl back in your hole idiot!

[Kashie]

Bumble because they know your here:) lol
That is the rules, they switch after so many hands!

[BumblBtuna]

lol
thats not right! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Kevmath]

[ QUOTE ]
she sure pimps her web site alot

[/ QUOTE ]

What did you say Mr Spamatropolis?

Kevin...

[zaxx19]

Overcalls on the river without any flush??

Hmmm....

Has Hennigan or the caller been that darn loose>>??

[BumblBtuna]

For the love of God man!!!
Put us out of our misery!

[kchammer]

[ QUOTE ]
Hey Hammer why dont you crawl back in your hole idiot!

[/ QUOTE ]what is your deal man i just made a comment you dont need to be a jerk

[zaxx19]

Jesus Christ, is that red head gonna try to put Worlds kids through Yale tonight??

[Kashie]

Shirley your site is great, very informative!

[jcmack13]

Johnny World is up $20,000+ ...

not bad...

[jcmack13]

Hey, Bart, mention the lowest possible scooping high hand in Omaha h/l is a K-high straight.

[BumblBtuna]

What does this commentator chick look like? She have a nice set she can flop?
/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Kevmath]

[ QUOTE ]
We have the best thread! Yay Kevmath.

[/ QUOTE ]

And the best posters too (with a few exceptions).

Kevin...

[MattHatter]

Bart,

A draw ring hand? Seriously?

Matt

[zaxx19]

Ok, wtf is this and how do you play it?

[Kevmath]

[ QUOTE ]
Shirley your site is great, very informative!

[/ QUOTE ]

I'll pile on and say that I like Shirley's site too, and her friend Steve Badger's site (http://playwinningpoker.com) . His poker news site had the mention of the article regarding Live at the Bike.

Kevin...

[BumblBtuna]

What a bunch of Badugi!!
/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Russ McGinley]

Johnny World will use his cellphone wherever he damn well wants, Bart.

[Kevmath]

Badugi is a 4 card draw game with 3 draws, the object is to get the lowest hand with 4 different suits (A234r is the best hand you can get, but A2s3c4d loses to KQJ10r).

Kevin...

[kchammer]

how can you cheat with an ipod??

[BumblBtuna]

this kids name is twat lee???
he must have had a hard time growin up
/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Russ McGinley]

Tuan Le. I think he was on a final table at the WSOP? I am positive I saw him on a televised table though.

[Kevmath]

[ QUOTE ]
Tuan Le. I think he was on a final table at the WSOP? I am positive I saw him on a televised table though.

[/ QUOTE ]

As Shirley mentioned, Tuan will be on next week's WPT show at Foxwoods.

Kevin...

[Russ McGinley]

Am I the only one that thinks "Did you make badugi?" sounds obscene?

[razor]

[ QUOTE ]
how can you cheat with an ipod??

[/ QUOTE ]

you get someone to gut it and replace it with some sort of receiving device and have your buddy watch and tell you whats going on...

granted with the 5 minute delay that wouldn't be useful...

[Expunge]

OK what is shirleys site?

And $14 a many per half hour, sound alot like rape to me.

[BumblBtuna]

Only is badugi considered obscene when one asks another to kiss their badugi
/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Kevmath]

Ken Berg's chicken place (http://www.topsecretrecipes.com/recipes/koochick.htm)

Kevin...

[kirisim]

The online player Dan Druff, who plays $100/$200 on Stars, and posts in the neverwinpoker.com forum, mentioned in a post that he might play in the game. Does anyone know if he's there?

[zaxx19]

I think playing 300-600 is silly also if you just won 1 million (which is what 680K post taxes>??).


Especially if my specialty is MTT where variance is a bznatch.

[Russ McGinley]

[ QUOTE ]
Only is badugi considered obscene when one asks another to kiss their badugi
/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

I made the nut badugi after I ate a big dinner last night. I had some smaller badugi's afterwards, maybe from the halo effect.

[kchammer]

I think playing 300-600 is silly also if you just won 1 million (which is what 680K post taxes>??).


i agree he (twan)is stuck almost 6 tousand already...BURN THE MONEY

[kirisim]

Never mind, Dan Druff posted that he found out Jerry Buss would not be in the game, so he was gonna skip it.

[jcmack13]

Hey, Bart, if weren't aware of the the K-high straight Omaha tidbit, ponder this...a set of jacks can never be the absolute nuts in Hold 'Em, because if the board is J-high, there has to be a possible straight. Therefore, the lowest possible nuts in Hold 'Em is a set of Queens.

I also think this kind of stuff is interesting.

[Expunge]

where does a rainbow pair hand rank in badugi ie.
As3d3c4h

[zaxx19]

[ QUOTE ]
Hey, Bart, if weren't aware of the the K-high straight Omaha tidbit, ponder this...a set of jacks can never be the absolute nuts in Hold 'Em, because if the board is J-high, there has to be a possible straight. Therefore, the lowest possible nuts in Hold 'Em is a set of Queens.



[/ QUOTE ]

Thnx for reminding me why I opt to play NLH.

[kchammer]

now twan burn the money is stuck almost 10 k need to win another tourney to play live action

[Russ McGinley]

DOH, flop a set, get all-in, lose to Q7sooooted.

[kchammer]

yeah you can really protect your hand in limit that is why it sucks

[cielo]

why does that guy have a napkin tucked into his collar?

note seat 8 is directly to the dealer's right

cielo

[Kevmath]

I think any badugi hand, even if there's a pair would beat A234 2 suited.

Kevin...

[Russ McGinley]

I heard he's a dribbler.

[Kevmath]

Here's a link (http://www.pokerpages.com/articles/players/steve-ruddock06.htm) for Badugi I found, it's listed as Padooki.

Kevin...

[Russ McGinley]

World is my hero. He is pummeling the crap outta this game.

[PGarlic]

Bart, do you have a good omoha book for a newbie to read up on? I'm doing quite well in holdem, but would like to learn a new game.

[touchfaith]

I heard it...you heard it...Now lets see it!

Bart vs. Bart Jr.
O8 / NLHE alternate

All we need now is the stakes and a line (for entertainment wagering only) /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[zaxx19]

Ya, im sure Tuan Le has 8 million in the bank right now. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[touchfaith]

[ QUOTE ]
Ya, im sure Tuan Le has 8 million in the bank right now. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

lol, "from his tea business or something..."

/images/graemlins/blush.gif

[Sparks]

[ QUOTE ]
Hey, Bart, mention the lowest possible scooping high hand in Omaha h/l is a K-high straight.

[/ QUOTE ]

hand: 3 4 5 6
board: T T T 8 9

or

hand: 4 5 6 7
board: 2 2 3 3 9

I never play omaha, so what am I missing?

Sparks

[TimTimSalabim]

Both of your boards allow for higher hands than straights. He's saying that the worst nuts is a K-hi straight when no low is possible.

[Kevmath]

I'd assume if the board was 7 8 9 10 J and you have QK2A that's how that would work.

Kevin...

[touchfaith]

Any chance they could stop searching for Omaha information and start calling the game again?

[zaxx19]

Where did you meet him the craps tables??

TJ I mean.

[MaxPower]

Uh, I don't think TJ wrote a book with Sklanksky.

[HoldingFolding]

Can you post the URL here (for the Maha points system). Thanks.

[Kevmath]

[ QUOTE ]
Uh, I don't think TJ wrote a book with Sklanksky.

[/ QUOTE ] Maybe he wrote it with NPA Ed Miller. Also, the question from last night was a good no-limit book regarding restricted buyin games.

Kevin...

[yellowjack]

2378Q

Set of Queens
Note: Edited.

[TimTimSalabim]

Maybe somebody already posted this, but the answer to the worst possible nuts in holdem is a board is Q8732 makes QQ the nuts, however if the board is J8732 a straight is possible.

[Russ McGinley]

Board w/ set of queens:

Q9742

[Kaz The Original]

what am i watching?

[Kevmath]

Post deleted by Kevmath

[yellowjack]

Ahh yeah I noticed that
Your example doesn't work because of the Aces /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Russ McGinley]

A clusterfu<font color="black"></font>ck.

[Kevmath]

That's why I edited, then deleted my post /images/graemlins/ooo.gif

Kevin...

[Kevmath]

[ QUOTE ]
what am i watching?

[/ QUOTE ]

Probably the last time they try doing the high-limit game.

Kevin...

[TimTimSalabim]

They just need bigger hole-card windows so they can show four cards. Get out the drill! /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Russ McGinley]

They should maybe invest in a clear table as well, or at least clear around the outside. That's probably asking for too much though.

[Russ McGinley]

Happy Birthday Tim!

/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Sparks]

[ QUOTE ]
Both of your boards allow for higher hands than straights. He's saying that the worst nuts is a K-hi straight when no low is possible.

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh, I guess then a "scooping" hand in Omaha 8 means the nuts. I thought it just meant you won the whole pot and didn't split.

Sparks

[When2Holdem]

[ QUOTE ]
Can you post the URL here (for the Maha points system). Thanks.

[/ QUOTE ]

http://www.homestead.com/ehutchison/omahasystem.html

[TimTimSalabim]

Thanks! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[TimTimSalabim]

Scooping means you win the whole pot. Either because you had both hi and low, or you just had hi but there was no low possible.

[cwsiggy]

What a difference the shufflemaster makes in speed. nice..

[Russ McGinley]

Typically you will have what's known as the wheel. Its got earthy tones, smooth draw, and enough kick to win me the high and the low.

[cwsiggy]

I've only been watching alittle while, but I don't see a lot of tipping going on!!!

[Kevmath]

[ QUOTE ]
I've only been watching alittle while, but I don't see a lot of tipping going on!!!

[/ QUOTE ]

It's usually the case the bigger the game, the worse the tips.

Kevin...

[cwsiggy]

sorta like when I delivered pizza in college. The wealthy Newtonians and Chestnut Hillers tipped the worst!!!

[cwsiggy]

ummmmmmm - what is Badugi???????

[Russ McGinley]

Badugi is triple draw lowball+all four suits.

[jakeinsanjose]

[ QUOTE ]
sorta like when I delivered pizza in college. The wealthy Newtonians and Chestnut Hillers tipped the worst!!!

[/ QUOTE ]
I bet you got your best tips in Southie or Charlestown.

[TimTimSalabim]

There aren't any low-denom chips floating around because the pots aren't raked, so they probably tip something when they leave. But I'm just guessing.

[cwsiggy]

lol - no actually I delivered around my school BC - so my best tips were in Allston!!!! working class baby!!!!

[zaxx19]

G-d, 4 handed with Habib and Hennigan.


TABLE CHANGE!!

[CrazyN8]

I'm here now kids...we can get this party WHAT THE F*@#%?

[Russ McGinley]

Haha, 3-handed. If this isn't the last time we have the big game, it should certainly be the last time we have the mixed game.

[jakeinsanjose]

I had such high hopes for BC in the tourney.

[arvin]

Bart, I need your opinion on internet poker multitabling. I usually 2-table with 2 different games. I like to pay at least some attention to the table play. How can some people 4-5-6 table some of those games. I don't it. Thanks.

[CrazyN8]

[ QUOTE ]
We have the best thread! Yay Kevmath.

[/ QUOTE ]

http://trephination.net/gallery/macros/best_thread_ever.gif

[Russ McGinley]

/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[CrazyN8]

"I love to hear that, nut, nut".....riiiiiiight. Thanks Bart, Jr.

[GuyOnTilt]

[ QUOTE ]
badugi

[/ QUOTE ]

[ QUOTE ]
badugi

[/ QUOTE ]

[ QUOTE ]
badugi

[/ QUOTE ]

[ QUOTE ]
badugi

[/ QUOTE ]

[ QUOTE ]
badugi

[/ QUOTE ]

[ QUOTE ]
badugi

[/ QUOTE ]

It's padooki. If you want to know about strat, PM Evan. He's an expert padooki player.

GoT

[Kevmath]

They showed the tile as badugi, so I'm calling it badugi until final notice dammit.

Kevin...

[GuyOnTilt]

[ QUOTE ]
They showed the tile as badugi, so I'm calling it badugi until final notice dammit.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'll admit I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure they're retarded. PM Evan and ask. He's an expert padooki player.

GoT

[CrazyN8]

[ QUOTE ]
but I'm pretty sure they're retarded

[/ QUOTE ]

pretty sure? I'm sure! /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[TimTimSalabim]

Padooki (http://www.pokerpages.com/articles/players/steve-ruddock06.htm)