Confusing JJ hand

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I'm a bit unsure about how I played this hand. Anybody care to point out any glaring mistakes? No reads as I just sat down, as did Villian.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, MP3 folds, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (12.25 BB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, UTG+2 folds.

River: (15.25 BB) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, CO folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 17.25 BB

[moose47]

Preflop: obvious
Flop: About nine outs if you are behind plus a chance you are ahead, good raise
Turn: A lot more outs now. Looks good.
River: Good call. No reason to think you aren't good 1/16 times.

Nice hand

[@bsolute_luck]

whew that's a tough hand!! i don't see any other way to play it, and i'd call on the river for info with noone else to act.

man, i am racking my brain for any other way to play it, but i can't come up with anything. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

he could have limped KJo or TT or worse:QQ. he could be on a flush draw or 2 pair or overaggressive with a pair of Qs. without reads, this is very difficult and the pot is very big, especially with so many outs to continue with.

[Womble]

Preflop: easy raise.

You are bet into on the flop, unless villain is good (unlikely) he will not value bet his flush draws. He most likely has a Q,two pair or a made straight.

Your J outs are no good, they put 4 to a straight and with this many people there is bound to be a K or 8 out there. Your getting outs to draw and you want to limit the field so the raise is good.

Turn, picked up a one card FD, have to call again.

River, I cant see how you are ahead but for 16BB its a call.

Unlucky /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Rockfish]

Poker ain't always pretty. I think I play it the same way.

NH.

[Redd]

I'm going to accept Grunch's no-read challenge and put in my two cents:

Preflop: standard.
Flop: I cap it. On this drawy board, Villain might be pumping a draw and you could have the best hand. Even if you don't you can pump your OSED for value.
Turn: If it's capped and he still leads out, I assume I'm drawing and call for OSED value. If checked to, I bet and call a raise.
River: One more bet HU is worth a call.

[Entity]

I would fold the river. I play the rest the same.

[KaiShin]

I think I would cap this flop. Everything else seems good.

[AlmightyJay]

I think I fold this river, I don't think you're good here enough. Other than that I play it the same.

[HollywoodDB]

Why don't we cap the flop here? Are we concerned with the clubs?

[car ramrod]

I think vilian is probably only raising a Q, I don't think he has KJ. So I may cap the flop, but maybe not.
I like the call on the turn as you know have club outs, plus you still have the oesd, both of which may be best. The river kinda sucks, I would probably call, I wonder if anyone else would fold. I think it maybe a good play.
Thanks again Grunch for the post yesterday.

[Token]

I don't see how you could have played it much differently. You don't beat many hands on the river, but I think it's worth a call on the end.