Thin Value Bets

[krishanleong]

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (7 SB) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB folds.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

River: (6.50 BB) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ...

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, CO calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, CO folds.

Turn: (4.20 BB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (6.20 BB) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero ...

Only read I can remember was in hand 1, villian was a little passive.

Krishan

[billyjex]

Just a disclaimer that I suck at value bets and I have a hard time with these thin situations as well.

Hand 1 I think we can bet and fold to a raise. He will probably pay you off with A high, and since he's passive he's not capable of a river bluff raise so if does raise we can give him credit for a better hand.

Hand 2 I'm not really sure what calls us that we beat. Are we hoping for KT here? I think the hands that are calling us include a weak ace too much of the time to make this profitable.

[mperich]

Hand 1 is not even close to a thin value bet. Its a very wide value bet. This should be automatic.

Hand 2 is a check. Looks like a split pot or missed flush draw to me.

-Mike

[billyjex]

Do you call a raise on the river in hand 1?

I said fold in my post but I probably call here because I look people up, but I feel it's a leak.