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Patrick Duffy
04-06-2005, 03:47 PM
***** Hand History for Game 1854192202 *****
Blinds(15/30) - Wednesday, April 06, 15:46:05 EDT 2005
Table Table 12134 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 6: LilMarley ( $1450 )
Seat 1: duffy17 ( $910 )
Seat 5: Ladylixx ( $775 )
Seat 7: georgemcgill ( $635 )
Seat 3: hopefulll ( $450 )
Seat 10: jesse31768 ( $1675 )
Seat 8: bangmonsta ( $85 )
Seat 2: MHolz ( $1020 )
Seat 9: GabeConry ( $570 )
Seat 4: greta111 ( $430 )
Trny:11063397 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to duffy17 [ Ad 4h ]
MHolz folds.
hopefulll folds.
greta111 folds.
Ladylixx folds.
LilMarley folds.
georgemcgill folds.
bangmonsta folds.
GabeConry folds.
jesse31768 calls [15].
duffy17 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ks, Kc, 9h ]
jesse31768 bets [30].
duffy17 raises [90].
jesse31768 calls [60].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Td ]
jesse31768 checks.
duffy17 bets [125].
jesse31768 calls [125].
** Dealing River ** [ 7h ]
jesse31768 checks.
duffy17...?

should i have raised preflop? i figured if i was behind, he wouldve either re-raised me on the flop, bet the turn, or raised my turn bet...what do you think?

fiyah
04-06-2005, 03:49 PM
You are still early in the tournament I would have just folded this on the flop, but since you played it I would definately have released it on the turn, its very likely he had a K and was just trying to extract extra chips out of you. No reason to put so much effort in trying to win with Ace high this early in the tournament, your chips have more equity later.

fiyah
04-06-2005, 03:51 PM
Sorry you were BB, didn't see that. I would have just check/fold after the flop, definately check the river.

nokona13
04-06-2005, 06:34 PM
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should i have raised preflop? i figured if i was behind, he wouldve either re-raised me on the flop, bet the turn, or raised my turn bet...what do you think?

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I don't think it's worth a raise pf for the 30 chips. I could well be wrong here, but if you're going to bluff at this, you have to represent a king. Would you raise with the king heads up against the SB? I could be wrong, but I feel like you might just call, then bet/raise the turn. To me, your betting says either exactly what you're going, bluffing, or a low/mid PP that is trying to drive out anyone without a king and doesn't beleive the flop call represents one...

There's not really any draws here, so to me his calling your bets either means hes got a king or 99 or maybe AA, or he's got A9-89 or a low-mid PP and thinks he's ahead but is trying to get to the river for cheap. As long as he's not a total monkey he's almost definitely got you beat, and this early I definitely wouldn't gamble that he's got something like J9 and would be willing to fold to a pot-sized bet, especially with him having such a large stack.

RobGW
04-06-2005, 07:01 PM
No reason to raise PF to win $30. No reason to bluff raise the flop either for just $60. If you feel the need to bluff at least do it when the pot is big enough to mean something. Just fold to the flop bet and keep yourself out of trouble. Now since you tried and he called on the flop I think you should have given up right there. But you tried again on the turn and got called again. I think its best to cut your losses and learn from this experience. He probably is not going to fold and its going to cost you a lot of chips to find out for sure.