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age
04-05-2005, 06:28 PM
Hello All,

I am looking for information on major WPT tournaments. Specifically I am interested in their exact blind structures. So far I have found the 2005 WSOP structures [worldseriesofpoker.com] (http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/wsop.asp) and the WPT's Bay 101 Shooting Stars structure [bay101.com] (http://www.bay101.com/v5/events/2005/ShootStar/Structures/event4.html) and nothing else. If anyone has any information or any links they are able to send my way it would be greatly appreciated.

Note: I am only interested in getting a copy of the exact structures, not approximations.

Thank you.

ZeeJustin
04-05-2005, 06:33 PM
The blind structure, and even # of starting chips changes from WPT to WPT, so you won't find a magic guide anywhere on the internet. I have only played in 2 WPT's, but the structure in each was vastly different. In Atlantis for example, the antes (in relation to the blinds) were the biggest I've ever heard of in my life.

MicroBob
04-05-2005, 06:57 PM
It seems it is pretty much up to the individual casino on these matters....not only regarding the blind-structure but also whether they actually let the public no in advance what this structure will be.


On the PPM IV cruise I am not sure whether any info relating to the blind-structure was available in advance.

When Mike Sexton spoke to everyone during the introductory meeting (or whatever it was called) he mentioned that the first level would be 100/200 (blinds of 50/100...stakes of 100/200...this was a limit tourney) and it seemed like that was the first anyone knew about it.

age
04-05-2005, 07:21 PM
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The blind structure, and even # of starting chips changes from WPT to WPT, so you won't find a magic guide anywhere on the internet. I have only played in 2 WPT's, but the structure in each was vastly different. In Atlantis for example, the antes (in relation to the blinds) were the biggest I've ever heard of in my life.

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That is kinda what i thought (having spent most of the day looking for the magic guide). So besides contacting each casino individually, or the WPT specifically there is no other way to aquire this information?

Specific tournamnets that would be great to have the structures:
Avation Club, Grande Prix de Paris
Bellagio $25k WPT Championship
Bellagio 5-Diamond
Bicycle Legends of Poker
Borgata Poker Open
Commerce L.A. Poker Open
Foxwoods World Poker Finals
Horseshoe World Poker Open
Reno Hilton World Poker Challenge
Tunica (heard this was a bad structure)
Atlantis
Party Poker Million
Poker Stars Caribbean Adventure
UltimateBet Aruba Classic
Celebrity Poker Showdown (hehe, for fun)
WPT Invitationals

Thanks for your help in confirming what i suspected. (That this is going to be harder than i thought)

Alan Goehring
04-13-2005, 05:56 PM
I have the structure for about half the events you mentioned on a sheet of paper from each casino, but it would be too time consuming to post. However, you can get a general feel for the quality of the structure by looking at the starting chip depth and number of hours before the big blind reaches the amount of starting chips ("SC"). At the completion a this level about 98% of the field would be eliminated, (for example 300 down to 6, or 450 down to 9).

Ranking as follows:
Event, Hours (BB=SC), Initial BB multiple
2004 WSOP $10K* 40, 200
2003 WSOP $10K 37, 200
2004 WPT $25K 34, 500
2004 Five Diamond $15K 30, 300
2005 LAPC $10K 27, 200
2005 WSOPC post A.C. 25.5, 200
2004 LAPC $10K 21.75, 200
2005 Tunica $10K 21, 200
2005 WPT Bahamas 20.5, 200
2004 Bay 101 $5K 20 (3 days), 200
2004 Tunica $10K 19.5, 200
2004 Reno $5K 17 (3 days), 200
2004 Aruba $6K 17, 200
2005 WSOPC A.C. $10K 16.9 (3 days), 100

*before reduction of 120 minutes to 100 minutes on day 1&2.

Also, I believe the Taj Mahal $10K and Union Plaza $10K had better structures than the average WPT $10K event, and Foxwoods $10K had one of the worst structures.

What is striking is that some of the WPT $10K events only give 20-21 hours of play to elimante 98% of the field compared to 37-38 hours for the WSOP $10K championship, although I expect the WSOP $10K event structure to deteriorate going forward.