10+1 Poker Stars Private tourny [Archive] - Two Plus Two Older Archives

View Full Version : 10+1 Poker Stars Private tourny

SoSlick

04-05-2005, 04:22 PM

70 people entered in this tournament, top 18 cash. I am watching my friend play, and was wondering about the play he made. I dont know my self what I would do, but I thought I would post it for him. Any comments on any part of his play would help, preflop raise, preflop call, whatever.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (7 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

BB (t19138)
UTG (t4714)
MP1 (t14359)
Hero (t6800)
CO (t13115)
Button (t2333)
SB (t2320)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
2 folds, Hero raises to t1800, 3 folds, BB raises to t19088, Hero calls t4950 (All-In).

Flop: (t26088) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t26088) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t26088) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t26088

Results in white below: 
BB has Ks Kh (one pair, kings).
Hero has 8s 8d (one pair, eights).
Outcome: BB wins t26088.

2005

04-05-2005, 04:26 PM

It would help to know how many players are left currently... I'm thinking 21, but I'm not sure

Gavin

SoSlick

04-05-2005, 04:31 PM

Sorry, forgot about that, 21 people left top 18 cashed, i was watching and he table seemed pretty good to me, and the guy who put him all in played pretty tight, he got a few good hands early on to get him up to the chip stack that he had

2005

04-05-2005, 04:37 PM

ok, raise preflop is good, I fold to the re-raise though.

Gavin

SoSlick

04-05-2005, 04:40 PM

Thanks, I knew the fold to the raise was the right thing to do, but I figured a raise in early in postion with his short stack wasn't the right thing. Can you explain to me why you'd throw in a raise there rather then just limp?

2005

04-05-2005, 04:43 PM

2 people fold in a 7 handed table, I'm raising any pair to try to pick up the 1100 chips or so that are in the pot b/c it's about a 15% addition to my stack

Gavin

schwza

04-05-2005, 04:51 PM

stealing the blinds is very important in MTT's. basically it helps you stay afloat until you can win a big one somehow.

if you limped and someone raised, you'd be in a very tough spot.

SoSlick

04-05-2005, 05:01 PM

yeah i agree with you, but i didnt thing in this situation it would be right to raise, i guess i thought it was 8 or something, but i guess i would be wrong if i just limped

betgo

04-05-2005, 05:53 PM

[ QUOTE ]
ok, raise preflop is good, I fold to the re-raise though.

[/ QUOTE ]

Why? You are getting close to 2-1 pot odds. The reraise comes from a big stack in the BB on the bubble. He could be stealing with nothing, hoping the raiser will fold so as not to bust out. The BB has no one to act behind him and may want to make a point of defending his blind.

MLG

04-05-2005, 06:09 PM

If you are willing to call a push here, then you should push yourself to begin with on the bubble. Coinflips are decidedly unpleasant here.

betgo

04-05-2005, 06:14 PM

[ QUOTE ]
If you are willing to call a push here, then you should push yourself to begin with on the bubble. Coinflips are decidedly unpleasant here.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeh, I would just open push preflop. In fact that seems like the only move.

Why are coinflips unpleasant on the bubble. This isn't a supersatellite.

ThrillFactor

04-05-2005, 06:49 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
If you are willing to call a push here, then you should push yourself to begin with on the bubble. Coinflips are decidedly unpleasant here.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeh, I would just open push preflop. In fact that seems like the only move.

Why are coinflips unpleasant on the bubble. This isn't a supersatellite.

[/ QUOTE ]

There was a very similar question here last night except hero had 77 and BB ended up with QQ.

The argument against the standard 3x raise is how many flops are going to look good to hero when BB (or CO in this example) flatcalls?

And if BB puts you all-in preflop can you let this go getting nearly 2 to 1 when he's very possibly just defending with 2 overs?

It's a tough break, that's all. Hero is getting short, picks up a good hand, but runs into a better one.

If hero is trying to win this thing, the correct play is to push.

If all he is worried about is cashing then a limp/fold, raise/fold will work (yick!) I guess. But that play will get you picked on a lot around here /images/graemlins/mad.gif