AJs query

[trentcroad]

How could I have played this hand better?
MP2 appears to be a maniac but I have only 30 hands on him atm.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 folds.

River: (11.75 BB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.75 BB

[sublime]

3-bet preflop. (i fold here a ton, but if you think the guy is whacko then 3-bet)

the rest seems fine

[highlife]

3-bet preflop to isolate.

3-bet the turn, if he caps check-call the river, if not bet-raise the river.

[adamstewart]

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3-bet preflop. (i fold here a ton, but if you think the guy is whacko then 3-bet)

the rest seems fine

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Just wondering...


Against an unknown preflop raiser, I'll generally cold-call with AJs, but usually not 3-bet (as per SSH).

Against a LAG, I'll for sure 3-bet, especially heads-up.

I rarely fold AJs preflop to a sinlge raise. (Just going by SSH).


Do you see any problems here??? Or is this 'standard'?


Are there any adjustments I should think about depending on whether is Heads-up, against 2-3 others, or against 4 or more players?


Adam

[lmbree]

That seems standard to me, because that is how i play it. Curious to see what others think.

[trentcroad]

I was thinking the same way as Adam here.
I really didnt know just how loose and nuts this guy was.

[Fat Nicky]

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3-bet the turn

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I don't like this, we are almost always trailing when we are capped, and if that's the case we just paid 4 bets to hit our draw. Also, 30 hands isn't enough to convince me the pf raiser is a maniac to make 3-betting the turn a good play.

[highlife]

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I rarely fold AJs preflop to a raise. (Just going by SSH).

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depends on position, personally i'll cold call two bets with AJs from MP3-Button, but not usually before.

[pokerstudAA]

AJs is not usually one I am cold calling first in with.

Mabye that is too tight but AJs (even sooted) is easily dominated by many preflop raising hands. I can usually lay this one down against a tight raiser 6% and will 3-bet it against someone who raises 12%+.

With a cold caller inbetween I am more likely to consider a cold call but AJs is usually worth a 3-bet here with some poor fish in the middle. I guess a cold call is more likely to bring along a few more players and AJs is good multiway.

[sublime]

i cant argue with what you posted, and definitly not with ed /images/graemlins/smile.gif

i just think on the whole, the games he writes about are different enought from the ones we play in, that certain changes need to be made in his preflop guideline. this situation doesnt appear to be one of them, however i probably 3-bet if the guy has been a fcuktard, even if its over a small sample.

EDIT: the games ed talks about are live loose passive games, where we play in tighter more aggressive games. because of this i play tighter than what he recommends.

[highlife]

the only hand i realistically put villain on that beats us is AK, and given the fact that he might be a maniac plus the fact that we have 11 outs against AK...i still like the 3-bet.

[Fat Nicky]

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the only hand i realistically put villain on that beats us is AK, and given the fact that he might be a maniac plus the fact that we have 11 outs against AK...i still like the 3-bet.

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that's way too narrow...why not AQ, QQ, A8, A4, 88...if he's a LAG, any of these are possible, but we only have 30 hands on him, so we don't know for sure if he is a LAG.

[adamstewart]

Other than perhaps 3-betting preflop, this is exactly the way I play it.

Adam

[Number4]

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Other than perhaps 3-betting preflop, this is exactly the way I play it.

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The 3-bet pf is all player and position specific.
Also, I would not 3-bet the turn. I would just call and then call a river bet ui.

[PokerBob]

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How could I have played this hand better?
MP2 appears to be a maniac but I have only 30 hands on him atm.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 folds.

River: (11.75 BB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.75 BB

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If MP2 is a nut, then 3-bet to isolate him pf. Another good way to play this hand is to ping a /images/graemlins/club.gif on the river.

Other than that, I like the way you played it.

(Put UTG+1 on your buddy list. He appears to be retarded.)

[Trainwreck]

All fine by me...

AJ any, gets me in a heap of trouble though, so I am mighty cautious with it in general.

&gt;TW&lt;

[adamstewart]

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Other than perhaps 3-betting preflop, this is exactly the way I play it.

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The 3-bet pf is all player and position specific.
Also, I would not 3-bet the turn. I would just call and then call a river bet ui.

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Hero did not 3-bet the turn.


Adam