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Harv72b
04-03-2005, 09:44 PM
MP3 appears to be a solid player, but small sample size (~50 hands). CO is a megadonk.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP3 calls.

Turn: (6.16 BB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls.

River: (8.16 BB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>...

I bet out figuring that MP3 would auto-raise it with whatever she PFR'd, and that CO was just as likely to call 2 as one. The big question is the 3-bet after CO folded...I've got a boatload of outs and the 3-bet helps to disguise my hand, but is this a worthwhile play? Betting the turn seemed mandatory after the top card paired...I was a little suprised that MP3 called.
bakku
04-03-2005, 09:53 PM
i don't like the flop bet
Harv72b
04-03-2005, 09:55 PM
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i don't like the flop bet

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Even given the read on CO?
private joker
04-03-2005, 09:55 PM
On the flop, you have 15 outs twice to make an almost unbeatable hand. Any club, A, or 9 gives you a near nuts hand. That draw will come in 50% of the time, and you've got two other opponents. It is mandatory that you jam the hell out of this flop. Once the board paired, it created boat possibilities, but with the turn non-raise, I wouldn't be too scared of it. Bet the river and either 3-bet or call a raise, depending on your read of MP3.
bakku
04-03-2005, 09:58 PM
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i don't like the flop bet

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Even given the read on CO?

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Ooh, didn't see that, but i still think i'd rather c/r the flop.
wrto4556
04-03-2005, 09:58 PM
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i don't like the flop bet

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I don't either. A C/r seems in line, imo. CO is more likely going to cal one at a time then two bets cold.
wrto4556
04-03-2005, 09:59 PM
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Ooh, didn't see that, but i still think i'd rather c/r the flop.

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Beat me to it
edtost
04-03-2005, 10:34 PM
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A C/r seems in line, imo. CO is more likely going to cal one at a time then two bets cold.

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Harv72b
04-03-2005, 11:10 PM
Well...MP3 folded to my river bet, so MHIG. When she just called the turn bet I figured either an overpair or (maybe) AK shooting for the gutshot. I was just calling a river raise if she made it.
Brash620
04-04-2005, 12:46 AM
I think you played it fine. You've got draws to a striaght and flush plus MP3 didn't cap you're three bet so I would assume that he is holding less than top pair so you may beable to pull out a winning hand just by spiking a king.