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EasilyFound
04-03-2005, 02:27 PM
$11 SNG. In the BB, you hit your top pair in an unraised pot w/medium kicker and bet on the flop. But you get raised. Was betting out correct? And what to do now that you are raised?

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SB (t1915)
Hero (t1170)
UTG (t1490)
MP (t1153)
CO (t1105)
Button (t1167)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls t50, MP calls t50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t200) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t100</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to t300</font>, SB folds, Hero ???

PokerSponge
04-03-2005, 02:48 PM
This is a great question, and I hope that some of the more successful people weigh in here. I often have the same question, because if you check it, your opponent almost always bets big and then what do you do?

microbet
04-03-2005, 03:16 PM
1/2 pot bets look weak. If you opponent is very aggressive and you were sure he would come over the top without a hand, then you can continue. If not, fold. IMO.

I don't think checking is bad either. It could turn out to a cheap showdown which you will probably win or you might save money when you have [edit: I mean he has] the best hand. Either way, I think to pot is most likely to be stolen from you if you bet 1/2 pot.

Also, check out this thread. (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&amp;Board=singletable&amp;Number=205 8968&amp;Forum=All_Forums&amp;Words=&amp;Searchpage=0&amp;Limit=25 &amp;Main=2058968&amp;Search=true&amp;where=bodysub&amp;Name=9369&amp; daterange=1&amp;newerval=1&amp;newertype=m&amp;olderval=&amp;older type=&amp;bodyprev=#Post2058968)

pokerlaw
04-03-2005, 03:26 PM
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1/2 pot bets look weak. If you opponent is very aggressive and you were sure he would come over the top without a hand, then you can continue. If not, fold. IMO.

I don't think checking is bad either.

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I agree that the flop bet needs to be higher, if you make one. If you had AQ or a hand you wanted to committ yourself to, then bet 100 and push when he comes over the top. However, your hand is too marginal to subject yourself to a possible bully-raise.

As to checking, I think there is merit to this as well, for you are out of position. If you get a check, you know you probably have the best hand. If you get a big bet, it is easier to get away from than the situation you found yourself in.

In the situation you were in after the reraise, I would fold unless I had a read that I was being bullied, in which I would push. good luck.

raptor517
04-03-2005, 03:34 PM
fold. thats what you do. check fold. hmm, well, as for betting 100, i dont really like that. once raised, you have to fold. once called, you have to slow down. lots of questionable outcomes after that.. i would def check this flop though, and play it from there. 3uo

EasilyFound
04-03-2005, 03:57 PM
Interesting comments. I usually make a larger bet when I bet the flop w/top pair if I think there is a reasoanble chance that I'm ahead. But here I did not think there was much chance someone would have a drawing hand w/that flop, so I figured a half-pot-sized bet would do the trick. My instinct was to reraise or fold. What I ended up doing was calling, and going all-in on the turn when a 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif fell on the turn. I guess that was kind of a wimpy or foolish way to play it.