Most anticipated final in years? Illinois-UNC official NCAA Thread

[Clarkmeister]

The matchup everyone has wanted all year is about to happen.

Illinois and UNC for all the marbles.

I've long maintaned that it was Illinois, then UNC, then everyone else. I still think that, and anticipate a great close game with Illinois pulling it out in a close one.

May is a beast but the key to this team is Felton and I think that our defense led by Deron Williams will be able to really disrupt him and the UNC offense. We have plenty of bodies to throw at May so that helps.

Anyways, it certainly feels like a heavyweight title fight. All year long hurtling towards each other. It should be a great one, I'll be there all decked in Orange.

Go Illinois!

[Chairman Wood]

Have you been watching the tournament at all this year? My God there is still 8:26 left? Show a little faith.

[Clarkmeister]

BTW, Carolina opened a 2 point favorite, which is exactly what I thought it would be. I can't wait!

[Clarkmeister]

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Have you been watching the tournament at all this year? My God there is still 8:26 left? Show a little faith.

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All I can tell you is the offshore sports books have a line up for Illinois-UNC but none for Illinois-MSU. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[Ianco15]

When UNC beats Illinois in the final, I win the 2+2 pool. Even though I won't win any money, I will still get the honor of being the winner until next year.

[Chairman Wood]

Okay it's done now. Good luck Clark

[mmbt0ne]

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May is a beast but the key to this team is Felton

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I think the fact that UNC's frontcourt scoring alone almost beat MSU's entire team is a pretty big problem for Illinois. But then again, they can shoot with the best of them, so who knows. Thank God MSU didn't win, I probably wouldn't have even watched the finals then. Who wants to see another 20 point blowout?

[istewart]

Today's games sucked.

[Clarkmeister]

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Today's games sucked.

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Their 2nd halves did. The first halves were very good.

That's alright anyways, it just reconfirms that the two best teams are playing for the title. This will have a lot of hype.

[Clarkmeister]

Article summarizing the UNC vs. Illinois game in Greensboro NC from early last year. Of note, Illinois was a team in rebellion and disarray at that time and really didn't turn the corner until after the first Wisconsin game about halfway through the Big Ten Conference schedule. Game was 79-78 before UNC drew away late.

By DAVID DROSCHAK
AP Sports Writer

GREENSBORO, N.C. - North Carolina's short bench wasn't a problem after all Tuesday night.

The 10th-ranked Tar Heels remained undefeated with an 88-81 victory over No. 11 Illinois in the ACC-Big Ten Challenge, outlasting one of the nation's deepest teams behind Sean May's 23 points and 14 rebounds.


May, sidelined most of last season by a broken foot, was nearly unstoppable at times in the paint as coach Roy Williams used just seven players - two who were questionable with injuries - against Illinois to improve to 4-0.


May got plenty of help from Rashad McCants, who added 20 points, and Jawad Williams, who played with a hip pointer, had 18 as all five North Carolina starters logged at least 31 minutes.


Meanwhile, Raymond Felton shut down Illinois scoring leader Dee Brown, who missed his first six shots and didn't score until there was 17:36 left.


Brown had a chance to tie the score twice late with 3-pointers, but missed and finished 3-for-17 from the field for just eight points.


Deron Williams led Illinois (3-1) with 22 points, while Roger Powell added 20.

North Carolina led 79-78 before Williams sank a follow shot and McCants hit a free throw. He missed his second from the line with 46.7 seconds left, but got the rebound and the Tar Heels closed out Illinois from the foul line.


The Tar Heels hit five of their first seven shots to open the second half to build the lead to nine.


But Powell brought the Fighting Illini back with a shot in the lane and a hook to start a spurt that saw Illinois score 13 points in 3½ minutes to retake the lead at 55-54 with 13:43 remaining.


It remained close until Powell picked up his fourth foul with 6:19 left and the score tied at 69.


With Powell on the bench, the Tar Heels hit four foul shots, got a follow from Jackie Manuel and a layup by McCants to go up by eight before a late charge by Illinois came up short.


Illinois came in averaging 15 turnovers, but coughed it up 14 times in the first half as North Carolina's defense picked up a notch following a close call over the weekend at Cleveland State.


Neither team led by more than four points until Illinois got sloppy again in the final minute of the period.


Jawad Williams sank a 3-pointer with 34.8 seconds left before an inbounds pass by Deron Williams was thrown away and ended up in the hands of McCants. He wasted no time drilling another shot behind the arc to get the partisan crowd into in, giving the Tar Heels a six-point lead at the break.


Illinois had trouble from the outside against North Carolina's tough defense, going 0-for-7 in the first half from 3-point range and 6 of 24 for the game.


The Fighting Illini also had trouble at the line, missing 11 of 18.



Source. (http://fightingillini.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/120203aaa.html)

[JinX11]

Well, after the Cardinals-Red Sox series, this game may be where you get even with me. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Congratulations to you - if it wasn't against UNC, I'd be rooting for Illinois. They are having a tremendous season and have been the best team all year. I hope it's a great game.

[Clarkmeister]

Funny post on the KU board.

"Well, that coaching change triangle thing sure worked out well." /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Vince Young]

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When UNC beats Illinois in the final, I win the 2+2 pool. Even though I won't win any money, I will still get the honor of being the winner until next year.

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Do you mean the Zoo pool? Because if UNC wins I win the 2+2 pool.

[Dead]

I would like nothing more than for Illinois to lose.

[istewart]

Deron Williams is albino.

[Clarkmeister]

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I would like nothing more than for Illinois to lose.

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I can understand why. It might happen, Syracuse is a pretty tough matchup for them. Should be a great game in this "Battle of the Orange". Who knows how Illinois would fare against a team using a zone defense!


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[Clarkmeister]

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Deron Williams is albino.

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His Mom is white.

[istewart]

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Deron Williams is albino.

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His Mom is white.

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Gay.

[nothumb]

Looking forward to this one Clarky.

My thoughts (off the cuff and I'm loaded, but still)...

Carolina proved today that they can beat an athletic, somewhat deeper team at an up-tempo today. The other teams they beat at that tempo were significantly less talented or deep, MSU is obviously both but not to as great a degree, and they were clearly overwhelmed. So that's reassuring.

I don't know much about the Illinois bench, but it will need to come up big.

My keys for Carolina:

-Felton needs to protect the ball, including early in the game. They have struggled in the first half a lot in this tourney. Actually, that's been their MO since Dean was around. Might not be able to afford it here. Must execute early.

-McCants needs to step up big on defense. He's a big-play defender but not consistent enough.

-Illinois has the advantage at the third guard spot, Carolina has the advantage in the paint. May and the Williamses have to start strong.

-Carolina should have a rebounding edge and needs to hit the offensive glass.

I see this being a great one, really looking forward to it.

NT

[ceyoung]

im looking forward to it, mainly because if illinois wins i win both of my pools and $300.

[holeplug]

Best championship game matchup since 99 Duke vs. Conn.

I don't think Illinois matches up well against UNC. Channing Frye killed them in the regional final and look at what UNC's frontchourt did to Mich St.

Illinois has to turn it into a half court game or they'll probably get killed in the 2nd half like Mich St. did. Either that or their 3 guards steal Allen Iverson's staminia for the night.

Will be interesting to see who IL puts on Felton. Deron Williams is kinda slow for a guard be he is IL's best defender and UNC's offense goes where Felton takes them.

[Ianco15]

Yes, I mean the zoo pool and according to the senario generator I will win if UNC wins. Maybe I'm wrong though. We'll see monday. My name on there is Ship__It.

[SinCityGuy]

Go Illinois!

Go to hell, Carolina!

[bugstud]

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Go Illinois!

Go to hell, Carolina!

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perfect

[Clarkmeister]

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Deron Williams is kinda slow for a guard be he is IL's best defender

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You haven't watched the last two games? Stoudamire and Garcia might disagree with your assessment.

[JoeU]

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When UNC beats Illinois in the final, I win the 2+2 pool. Even though I won't win any money, I will still get the honor of being the winner until next year.

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How dare you post this in Clarkmeister's thread! You should be ashamed of yourself. I will take valuable time out of my day and fix your post:

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When Illinois beats UNC in the final, JoeU will win the 2+2 pool. Even though he won't win any money, he will still get the honor of being the winner until next year.

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Joe

[Clarkmeister]

Just found out where my seats are for the game (we didn't know because we only got them for one game and had to wait for the Saturday games to be over - got them through a friend of my Father's.)

Center court. 4th row.

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[Cubswin]

Center court. 4th row.

VERY NICE!!!! I want to see some pics!!!!

When the Illini played Georgetown at the MCI center this year i bought my ticket 45 minutes before the game and got third row. I cant imagine being that close for a big game.

cubs

[codewarrior]

Northern by birth...
Southern by breeding...
&amp; TarHeel by the Grace of God...

My life has been blessed.

[bugstud]

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Just found out where my seats are for the game (we didn't know because we only got them for one game and had to wait for the Saturday games to be over - got them through a friend of my Father's.)

Center court. 4th row.

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I was about eleven rows back for the L'ville game, right next to the CBS stand. No dice on getting any MSU tickets for monday, though, so I have a ticket somewhere between the rafters and the farthest seat up in the house

[TaxGoddess]

I am quite envious - I can get a $49 flight to St. Louis from Cleveland, but won't go w/o securing a ticket first, so I probably won't go.

Oh yeah, UNC alumna '95, so I am a huge fan, being as I experienced the reign of the great Dean Smith, and survivor of '93 celebration in Chapel Hill.

Anyway, enough bleeding blue, GO UNC!!!!

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[Clarkmeister]

I love how they all come out of the woodwork for one game. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif


In other news, I hop on my plane to St. Louis in under 10 hours. Oh boy, oh boy am I nervous.

The good news is I am 1-0 when attending Championship games involving my teams. (I was at Game 7 of the 1982 World Series in St. Louis), so at least I can bring that to the table.

[Dead]

You're nervous?

You're not one of the guys that has to get on the court in 18 hours. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Clarkmeister]

3 hours sleep then off to pack and hit the airport and hopefully a classic final between two great teams with Illinois winning in a thriller.

Go Illini!

[zaxx19]

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&amp; TarHeel by the Grace of God...



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...and the fact that I couldnt scoot into Duke, UVA, or Emory...and wanted to stay in the south.

Ok, now that makes more sense. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[JoeU]

Well Clarky,

From now until about midnight, I'd like to petition you to allow me to be a temporary bandwagon jumper.

My credentials:

NY Yankees: I'm good at winning championships in years that don't end in 2004.

Syracuse: I'm good at beating teams not named Vermont. I do have a national championship this century as well.

Dallas Cowboys: C'mon, they're America's Team. Don't tell me you don't like Americans!

I also won 9 straight roller hockey championships.

Lets face it Clarky, you want me on your team; you NEED me on your team!

Good luck tonight. I'm rootin for ya.
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Joe

[DukeSucks]

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Oh yeah, UNC alumna '95, so I am a huge fan, being as I experienced the reign of the great Dean Smith, and survivor of '93 celebration in Chapel Hill.


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Hey, I graduated '95 too. Maybe I bumped into you on Franklin St. I remember (mostly /images/graemlins/smile.gif) that night. The rain is the only thing that kept all the bonfires under control! I wonder if they pulled all the blue spray paint from the stores again this year (not that it mattered then)

[Dead]

Syracuse fan eh?

[pshreck]

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Syracuse

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Nice job destroying your argument.

[Dead]

He is not a true Orangemen fan. He is just a bandwagon jumper like he said.

Nick and I are the only two true Syracuse fans that have declared our allegiances on here.

[JoeU]

I went to Syracuse for the 90-91 school year.

My #5 football jersey isn't Donovan McNabb, its Marvin Graves. I went to school with the likes of LeRon Ellis. And 2 years ago, I took my wife there to see the SU/Miami game.

I'm quite sure I'm not a bandwagon jumper. Besides, the original SU fans on this board are me and CrackerZack, I'm certain of that.

Joe

[pshreck]

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I went to Syracuse for the 90-91 school year.

My #5 football jersey isn't Donovan McNabb, its Marvin Graves. I went to school with the likes of LeRon Ellis. And 2 years ago, I took my wife there to see the SU/Miami game.

I'm quite sure I'm not a bandwagon jumper. Besides, the original SU fans on this board are me and CrackerZack, I'm certain of that.

Joe

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So you went to Syracuse.

Dead, did you go to Syracuse?

[Dead]

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I went to Syracuse for the 90-91 school year.

My #5 football jersey isn't Donovan McNabb, its Marvin Graves. I went to school with the likes of LeRon Ellis. And 2 years ago, I took my wife there to see the SU/Miami game.

I'm quite sure I'm not a bandwagon jumper. Besides, the original SU fans on this board are me and CrackerZack, I'm certain of that.

Joe

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So you went to Syracuse.

Dead, did you go to Syracuse?

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No, I didn't go to Syracuse(my parents weren't aboue to let me go to school 5 minutes from my house).

But I have lived in Syracuse for years and years. I grew up here. I go to the games when I am home.

[SinCityGuy]

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I love how they all come out of the woodwork for one game. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

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Well, in my case, I'd cheer for the Iranian National team if they were playing UNC or Duke.

[JinX11]

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Well Clarky,

From now until about midnight, I'd like to petition you to allow me to be a temporary bandwagon jumper.



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Joe,

You are capable of making better decisions than this.

Go Heels!!

[Mike Gallo]

Good luck tonight. Enjoy the beer and enjoy the game.

I know nothing about college basketball.

[prizminferno]

Jordan in the house

TAR...
HEELS!!!

[pshreck]

Is this gonna be the thread for the game tonight? I would like a fresh one, but I dont feel worthy of making it.

Clark is there, so someone else do it, who is worthy.

[JinX11]

Be careful - any more "Official" threads might set the ootards in a rage. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[pshreck]

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Be careful - any more "Official" threads might set the ootards in a rage. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Dont have to say official, just a thread for the gameplay.

[ethan]

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Well Clarky,

From now until about midnight, I'd like to petition you to allow me to be a temporary bandwagon jumper.

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Right there with you.

Gooooooo Illini!

[JinX11]

Let's get it on - go Heels!!!

[JoeU]

Sorry JinX, but Illinois is +EV for me tonight. I win 2 money pools and the coveted Zoo pool. That would make me the 2+2 supreme bracketologist.

For those reasons, I'm pulling for the Illini. But believe me, if it were UNC-Duke, its Tar Heels all the way!

Joe

[Dead]

I wish Louisville were still in it, because I can't really strand either of those two teams. I can stand UNC more, however.

[JoeU]

To go further Dead, I lived in Sadler Hall. Day and Flint are at the top of the hill (122 steps if I remember correctly), and all the athletes lived on South Campus, except for the 3rd string center, who lived next to me on the 8th floor. Brewster/Boland are probably as close to "da hood" as anyone would like to get, and walking around the Carrier Dome to get to class every day sucked because the wind that whipped around the building was terrible.

Should I have to go on, or am I some kind of Syracuse stalker? /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Joe

[JinX11]

Hmmm...I can understand then.

I predict one of the best Finals games in many years. In fact, I'm predicting an double overtime game.

That, or a 18 point Tarheel victory. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[JinX11]

Nice start for the good guys...Illini missing some easy looks. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[MEbenhoe]

Everytime UNC scores I drink

Everytime Illini score roommate drinks

3's = 2 drinks

My beer = Corona and Newcastle Brown Ale
Roommate = Miller Lite

Game On!!!

[pshreck]

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My beer = Corona and Newcastle Brown Ale


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I laughed hard at the idea of drinking these two beers in the same sitting.

Other than that, sounds like a fun drinking game.

[JinX11]

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My beer = Corona and Newcastle Brown Ale
Roommate = Miller Lite


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This says it all. Figures an Illini supporter would also support pansy-ass beer.

[Dead]

You've convinced me Joe.

But there isn't really a "hood" in Syracuse. There aren't really any part of the city that is bad. I feel comfortable walking/driving around just about any part of it.

[tech]

Why is Illinois trying to run with UNC? Seems to me like their game would be to try and slow it down -- that is how teams have been successful against UNC this year.

[MEbenhoe]

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My beer = Corona and Newcastle Brown Ale
Roommate = Miller Lite


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This says it all. Figures an Illini supporter would also support pansy-ass beer.

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Corona and Newcastle pwn Miller Lite

[MEbenhoe]

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My beer = Corona and Newcastle Brown Ale


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I laughed hard at the idea of drinking these two beers in the same sitting.

Other than that, sounds like a fun drinking game.

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I didn't have enough of either one left to just stick with one.

[JinX11]

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Why is Illinois trying to run with UNC? Seems to me like their game would be to try and slow it down -- that is how teams have been successful against UNC this year.

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You're right - trying to run is how Wisconsin got in a lot of trouble. On the season, UNC is only 4-3 in games where they score &lt; 70 points.

Now, Illinois is quite a bit better than Wisconsin. They can play in the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s. Arizona was a running team and Illinois beat them at their own game.

Illinois sure does run a LOT of moving screens, though!! /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Cubswin]

Illinois sure does run a LOT of moving screens, though!!

They run about as many moving screens as UNC calls time outs when they are already out of bounce

[pshreck]

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Illinois sure does run a LOT of moving screens, though!!

They run about as many moving screens as UNC calls time outs when they are already out of bounce

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Huh? He clearly had that time out. What did you see?

[Cubswin]

yes... after he was out of bounce....

[Dead]

This is a really good game. Lots of threes being shot.

[JinX11]

Yeah. Drink a Miller Lite there, buddy. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[pshreck]

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yes... after he was out of bounce....

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i dont get it. bounce?

[Cubswin]

explain to me whcih official was in position to call that TO... you got tivo or just crack?

[prizminferno]

explain where the 2nd foul on Felton was first

[pshreck]

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explain to me whcih official was in position to call that TO... you got tivo or just crack?

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As I remember it there was an official... right freaking next to him, and could clearly see the time out sign from his angle. The call was fine.

[JinX11]

Just like online poker, the refs are rigged. You're no fool.

[Cubswin]

Drink a Miller Lite there

blah... im drinking that other crappy bear... bud light

[zaxx19]

Im an Illini fan but if they shoot like this all game they have perhaps a 10% chance to win this game.

[Cubswin]

could clearly see the time out sign from his angle.

tivo it .... there is no angle and he calls it after the foot is down...... im over it....

[pshreck]

Wtf... 3 on 1 ... lets .... go get behind the 3 point line and take a low percentage 3 pointer, as opposed to an almost guaranteed 2 point basket? That was dumb, even if he made the 3.

[JinX11]

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Im an Illini fan but if they shoot like this all game they have perhaps a 10% chance to win this game.

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Clark must be ripping his hair out right now after running a 3-1 fast break and settling for a bad 3 point opportunity.

EDIT: yes, Illini not shooting lights out, but hey, UNC only up 4 points considering. Illinois should feel great about this.

[pshreck]

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could clearly see the time out sign from his angle.

tivo it .... there is no angle and he calls it after the foot is down...... im over it....

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No, you arent over it, because I dont have Tivo, dont remember it exactly, and I still want to win.

[sublime]

was jack ingram on COPS before?

[Cubswin]

No, you arent over it, because I dont have Tivo, dont remember it exactly, and I still want to win.

you dont have tivo and im drunk..... we'll call it a draw /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[JinX11]

dammit, Manuel!!!

[pshreck]

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No, you arent over it, because I dont have Tivo, dont remember it exactly, and I still want to win.

you dont have tivo and im drunk..... we'll call it a draw /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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LOL sure /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Cubswin]

i guess powell needs to be sodomized for a foul to be called????

[zaxx19]

Illini still cant make a shot.

They should just be trying to keep it close at this point.

[Dead]

I think the officials are doing a fine job.

And does anyone besides me like these Applebee's commercials? They have this nice homey feeling about them.

[prizminferno]

oh shut the [censored] up! he is throwing elbows left and right. offensive foul PLEASE

[JinX11]

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Just like online poker, the refs are rigged.

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[Cubswin]

is it half-time yet??? i have about 4 pounds of wings calling my name....

[pshreck]

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i guess powell needs to be sodomized for a foul to be called????

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Haha I am definetly not gonna argue with you on that one. I think after the 3rd fould not called the refs are thinking "ok, i guess we arent just gonna call one on this play? wow, the other guys didnt call it yet? this is cool, wow, we still arent calling a foul"

[JinX11]

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They should just be trying to keep it close at this point.

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They look shaky, but they have heart. They'll make a game of this. They are way too good just to fold up shop.

[pshreck]

"I don't look at myself as a basketball coach, I look at myself as a leader, who happens to coach basketball."

I nominate this as the dumbest think Coach K has ever said.

[JinX11]

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i guess powell needs to be sodomized for a foul to be called????

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OK, bad calls are even. The fact that Dee Brown is tripping May doesn't matter, apparently.

[Dead]

Umm..... yeah......

[pshreck]

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Umm..... yeah......

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Please stop playing like tards Illinois and give me at least one competitve game out of the whole final 4. If its 15 at half time...

[Dead]

Another reason why I hate Carolina slightly less:

I think that Roy Williams deserves a championship. He's gotten so close so many times. I think it's time.

[Cubswin]

OK, bad calls are even.

may walks then throws a fore-arm shiver on deron... and you call it even? sigh....i need my wings...

[Dead]

If Illinois loses this game, are you and Clark going to blame it on "bad" calls?

[istewart]

Postgame news stories will be much more fun to watch if Williams loses, though.

And yes, Coach K is officially a media whore.

[Dead]

I didn't see anything about Coach K? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[JinX11]

Seriously - I want you to watch the Illinois offense this next half. Watch all the screens they run. Watch how the screen is not at all stationary.

[prizminferno]

Illinois = simply overmatched

[Cubswin]

nah... IL is not playing its game right now.... the bad calls are only salt on the wounds... how does that phat phuck go a half without a foul? /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[zaxx19]

Halftime thoughts:

1) UNC has played decently but shown themselves to be kind of sloppy with the ball.

2) Illinois just cant hit a shot. For a perimeter team with no real inside threat facing perhaps the most stacked team in the nation this is just too high of a hurdle to overcome.

If Illinois doesnt get hot at the 3 point line this game will be over within 10 minutes of the second half. It is really just that simple.

[Ianco15]

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I didn't see anything about Coach K? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

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He's talking about the comercial for AMEX that Coach K does. It's basically free recruiting for Duke.

[Cubswin]

Seriously - I want you to watch the Illinois offense this next half. Watch all the screens they run. Watch how the screen is not at all stationary.

its call a roll... and its legal

[zaxx19]

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Illinois = simply overmatched



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I dont think any serious fan could really believe this from the way the 1st half played out.

[Dead]

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I didn't see anything about Coach K? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

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He's talking about the comercial for AMEX that Coach K does. It's basically free recruiting for Duke.

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Yeah. I don't like it much either, but a lot of Americans respect Coach K, so that's why Amex chose him.

[pshreck]

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I didn't see anything about Coach K? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

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He's talking about the comercial for AMEX that Coach K does. It's basically free recruiting for Duke.

[/ QUOTE ]

I have no issue with the free recruiting from the commercial. I just think his coach/leader/coach quote is so amazingly stupid.

[Cubswin]

OK... if im BAM i come out with the full court press.... it would catch UNC by surprise and im sure they would get 2 quick turnovers....

[JinX11]

[ QUOTE ]

Seriously - I want you to watch the Illinois offense this next half. Watch all the screens they run. Watch how the screen is not at all stationary.

its call a roll... and its legal

[/ QUOTE ]

No. Moving screens are not legal. Moving into players to create a screen is not legal. Rolling out of screens is perfectly legal and is not what I'm referring to.

[holeplug]

[ QUOTE ]
If Illinois doesnt get hot at the 3 point line this game will be over within 10 minutes of the second half. It is really just that simple.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah pretty much. Live by the 3 and now die by the 3.

[Cubswin]

I just think his coach/leader/coach quote is so amazingly stupid.

i agree.

[zaxx19]

Im sure Coach K is reading this right now and feels utterly crushed....

Or maybe he is in the Carribean on a yacht satellite phoning some bluechippers and calling his broker to make some calls on Oil futures...


Im guessing its the whole on a yacht thing.

[pshreck]

[ QUOTE ]
OK... if im BAM i come out with the full court press.... it would catch UNC by surprise and im sure they would get 2 quick turnovers....

[/ QUOTE ]

... and burn themselves out to play 20 minutes of solid basketball.

[AngryCola]

[ QUOTE ]

1) UNC has played decently but shown themselves to be kind of sloppy with the ball.

[/ QUOTE ]

While UNC has been more sloppy with the ball, Illinois has played a sloppier game.

[JinX11]

[ QUOTE ]
Im sure Coach K is reading this right now and feels utterly crushed....

Or maybe he is in the Carribean on a yacht satellite phoning some bluechippers and calling his broker to make some calls on Oil futures...


Im guessing its the whole on a yacht thing.

[/ QUOTE ]

nh

[pshreck]

[ QUOTE ]
Im sure Coach K is reading this right now and feels utterly crushed....

Or maybe he is in the Carribean on a yacht satellite phoning some bluechippers and calling his broker to make some calls on Oil futures...


Im guessing its the whole on a yacht thing.

[/ QUOTE ]

Let me never criticize a rich person again.

[JinX11]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
OK... if im BAM i come out with the full court press.... it would catch UNC by surprise and im sure they would get 2 quick turnovers....

[/ QUOTE ]

... and burn themselves out to play 20 minutes of solid basketball.

[/ QUOTE ]

They only need about 3 minutes to rattle off 13 straight points. Ask Arizona how I know.

[Cubswin]

No. Moving screens are not legal. Moving into players to create a screen is not legal. Rolling out of screens is perfectly legal and is not what I'm referring to.


errrrrrr...... /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

http://www.crack-pipes.com/crack-pipe.jpg

[JinX11]

[ QUOTE ]
No. Moving screens are not legal. Moving into players to create a screen is not legal. Rolling out of screens is perfectly legal and is not what I'm referring to.


errrrrrr...... /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

http://www.crack-pipes.com/crack-pipe.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]

Let's do it, dude.

[pshreck]

[ QUOTE ]


They only need about 3 minutes and a complete offensive collapse from the other team to rattle off 13 straight points. Ask Arizona how I know.

[/ QUOTE ]

Fixed your post.

[Cubswin]

crack is gooooood

[JinX11]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]


They only need about 3 minutes and a complete offensive collapse from the other team to rattle off 13 straight points. Ask Arizona how I know.

[/ QUOTE ]

Fixed your post.

[/ QUOTE ]

Maybe. First 5 minutes are key.

[zaxx19]

Go ahead. Just dont be angry or upset when someone interjects a little reality into 2+2ville.

Furthermore, and perhaps I should have stated this in the thread, Coach K isnt just rich, he went to West Point and has excelled at Duke beyond pretty much all of his contemporaries. He has done all this without even a whisper of impropriety and while keeping academic integrity a priority.

For the record- I hate Duke, and root against them against any opponent.

[pshreck]

[ QUOTE ]
Go ahead. Just dont be angry or upset when someone interjects a little reality into 2+2ville.


[/ QUOTE ]

Im stepping out of reality by calling him out on a stupid quote? Not like I said he was stupid for making the commercial.

[zaxx19]

[ QUOTE ]
Maybe. First 5 minutes are key.



[/ QUOTE ]

Ya, they need an initial push to get it to something manageable, like 8, or else it could get ugly.

[Cubswin]

speaking of crack... FG% at half:

IL: 27.8
UNC: 53.3

ouch... IL should be happy to be down only 13...

[JinX11]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Maybe. First 5 minutes are key.



[/ QUOTE ]

Ya, they need an initial push to get it to something manageable, like 8, or else it could get ugly.

[/ QUOTE ]

If UNC plays smart, they'll go inside to May just about every possession of those 5 minutes to counteract any offensive surge Illinois might bring. Outside shots for UNC = bad right now.

[Dead]

May is unstoppable. The 3 guard choice of Illinois(tiny dudes) can't handle him. May can totally overpower Powell at will.


And now Augustine has 4 fouls.

Illinois= fcked.

[tech]

[ QUOTE ]
If Illinois doesnt get hot at the 3 point line this game will be over within 10 minutes of the second half.


[/ QUOTE ]

It was over a long time ago.

[Cubswin]

May is unstoppable.

especially when hes allowed to lower his shoulder into powell and no whistle is blown... but yet augies gets called for nickle and dimers

[tech]

It might have been useful for Illinois to actually watch some game film of UNC.

[Dead]

I think the refs are being pretty fair. They're letting them play. They know that UNC likes to play a fast running game.

[riffraff]

They need to move the 3-point line back in NCAA.

[JinX11]

And another moving screen.

[zaxx19]

Best case scenario for Ill is May breaking his hand on a dunk attempt at this point.

[JinX11]

[ QUOTE ]

If UNC plays smart, they'll go inside to May just about every possession of those 5 minutes to counteract any offensive surge Illinois might bring. Outside shots for UNC = bad right now.

[/ QUOTE ]

[pshreck]

[ QUOTE ]
Best case scenario for Ill is May breaking his hand on a dunk attempt at this point.

[/ QUOTE ]

They need to bring in an interim coach right now, and his name is John Chaney.

[Cubswin]

They need to move the 3-point line back in NCAA.

*** nods head in agreement***

[Cubswin]

And another moving screen.

you complain more then me.... you must have a very big vagina /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[pshreck]

[ QUOTE ]

*** nods head in agreement***

[/ QUOTE ]

Thats too much physical activity, just stick to sitting, eating and drinking.

[JinX11]

[ QUOTE ]
And another moving screen.

you complain more then me.... you must have a very big vagina /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

with sand in it.

[JinX11]

[ QUOTE ]
And another moving screen.

[/ QUOTE ]

[pshreck]

UNC is pulling away. Game over.

[JinX11]

[ QUOTE ]
UNC is pulling away. Game over.

[/ QUOTE ]

Ummm...you better hit the "Live" button on your Tivo, friend.

[Cubswin]

with sand in it.

[pshreck]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
UNC is pulling away. Game over.

[/ QUOTE ]

Ummm...you better hit the "Live" button on your Tivo, friend.

[/ QUOTE ]

51-48. Game over.

[MEbenhoe]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
And another moving screen.

[/ QUOTE ]

[/ QUOTE ]

Are you actually possibly complaining about the officiating here? UNC has gotten almost every call so far, and has been allowed to get away with a lot of clear fouls on Illinois. Suddenly a couple things get called on UNC and you start whining? HAHAHA

[pshreck]

Ok Im back to reality now.... that foul on may is definetly the worst call of the game so far. Im not even sure he made contact whatsoever.

[Cubswin]

may called for a foul....OMFG!!!!!

They hit him for a bs foul after they missed the first 3

[Reef]

it's a game now

[Dead]

UNC can still hold on I think.

They'll keep feeding it to May.

[MEbenhoe]

[ QUOTE ]
may called for a foul....OMFG!!!!!

They hit him for a bs foul after they missed the first 3

[/ QUOTE ]

agreed

[Cubswin]

put in nick smith with those pointy ass elbows to blind that phat phuck

[Dead]

[ QUOTE ]
UNC can still hold on I think.

They'll keep feeding it to May.

[/ QUOTE ]

[Jack of Arcades]

Sean may doing everything in his power to stop the comeback, shows why he's such a great player, not just his talent, but his composure.

Jesus, he's taking it all in his back.

But Deron Williams is insane.

[Ulysses]

I don't care about either team, but this sure is an exciting game to watch.

[JinX11]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
And another moving screen.

[/ QUOTE ]

[/ QUOTE ]

[MEbenhoe]

OMG Does Williams ever miss?!?! WOW quite a performance by him regardless of the result.

[Dead]

HUGE THREE.

[istewart]

Nice pass by May.

[JinX11]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
And another moving screen.

[/ QUOTE ]

[/ QUOTE ]

Are you actually possibly complaining about the officiating here? UNC has gotten almost every call so far, and has been allowed to get away with a lot of clear fouls on Illinois. Suddenly a couple things get called on UNC and you start whining? HAHAHA

[/ QUOTE ]

You drinking the Miller Lite now?!?!

[zaxx19]

Illinois= A FRIGGUN TON OF HEART

[Cubswin]

Nice pass by May.

i concur....


... now put in nick smith with those pointy ass elbows

[pshreck]

Im drinking guiness for every rolling screen.

[zaxx19]

First rule - No Nick Smith....EVER.

[prizminferno]

is Illinois going to play basketball or shoot 3s all game?

[Cubswin]

almost as depressing as the notion of IL losing this game... i am down to my last beer /images/graemlins/frown.gif where did they all go?????

[JinX11]

I predict that Star Wars Episode III will somehow suck worse than the first two episodes.

[zaxx19]

Is UNC gonna play BBALL or push it inside to May every possesion??

[pshreck]

[ QUOTE ]
almost as depressing as the notion of IL losing this game... i am down to my last beer /images/graemlins/frown.gif where did they all go?????

[/ QUOTE ]

This is dissapointing. I never have less than 30 in my fridge.

Ill drink a beer for everyone you miss now.

[Cubswin]

ummm... where was the foul???????

[prizminferno]

[ QUOTE ]
Is UNC gonna play BBALL or push it inside to May every possesion??

[/ QUOTE ]

haha, touche. but these 3s are unbelievable.

[JinX11]

[ QUOTE ]
i am down to my last beer /images/graemlins/frown.gif where did they all go?????

[/ QUOTE ]

This is your own fault. I told you this was going double OT. You should make a run right now.

[Cubswin]

Ill drink a beer for everyone you miss now.

im on a good clip right now... 11.5 down so far and i started about 15 minutes before tip... do me proud!!!!

[pshreck]

[ QUOTE ]
Ill drink a beer for everyone you miss now.

im on a good clip right now... 11.5 down so far and i started about 15 minutes before tip... do me proud!!!!

[/ QUOTE ]

LOL jesus christ. Wtf are you funneling or something?

[Cubswin]

I told you this was going double OT.

Dont make me bust out the listerine

[zaxx19]

If it does go to 2OT here is hoping Shawn May has an outstanding court appearance to make in the next 30 minutes.

[JinX11]

Even I have to say...

[ QUOTE ]
ummm... where was the foul???????

[/ QUOTE ]

on that one.

[Cubswin]

these calls agaisnt may are getting laughable... his ass takes up 2 zip codes and when he swings it around the whistle should be blown.....

[pshreck]

[ QUOTE ]
his ass takes up 2 zip codes

[/ QUOTE ]

Now that was uncalled for. Apologize.

[Cubswin]

sorry... three zip codes

[Dead]

Sean May is not fat.

You are clearly just another drunk, irrational Illini fan. He has a ton of muscle.

I really hope UNC wins this now. I never want Illinois to win a championship after seeing some of the stupidity displayed by Illini fans.

[Cubswin]

lots of muscles... and fat

[JinX11]

[ QUOTE ]
Sean May is not fat.

You are clearly just another drunk, irrational Illini fan. He has a ton of muscle.

I really hope UNC wins this now. I never want Illinois to win a championship after seeing some of the stupidity displayed by Illini fans.

[/ QUOTE ]

Dead, I have to admit, I feel a little odd about a Yankees fan rooting for my Tarheels.

[Cubswin]

I never want Illinois to win a championship after seeing some of the stupidity displayed by Illini fans.

get over it... get a sense of humor

[JinX11]

Augustine is a moran.

[Dead]

Oh man you guys are [censored] now.

/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Augustine fouls out.

[Cubswin]

and may has 1 foul....... what a joke

[pshreck]

[ QUOTE ]
Sean May is not fat.

You are clearly just another drunk, irrational Illini fan. He has a ton of muscle.

I really hope UNC wins this now. I never want Illinois to win a championship after seeing some of the stupidity displayed by Illini fans.

[/ QUOTE ]

Cubs has been having a good time in this thread and being pretty jovial.

Has all the Dead hating hardened you? Lighten up...

[Number4]

Billy Packer with 8:30 left - Bring Augustine back
Billy Packer after he fouls out - "They shouldn't have had him in"
What a moron.

[JinX11]

[ QUOTE ]
Oh man you guys are [censored] now.

/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Augustine fouls out.

[/ QUOTE ]

And yet, Illinois hangs close. 2 point game.

[Dead]

Officials know that May is bigger so they know that Illinois guys are going to try to get cheap on him. They're aware of it and are acting accordingly.

[Cubswin]

Oh man you guys are [censored] now.

just like they were [censored] when he fouled out down 15 to AZ

[MEbenhoe]

[ QUOTE ]
Sean May is the fattest player in the NCAA.

[/ QUOTE ]

Fixed Your Post

[sfer]

Wow. This is pretty exciting.

[Huskiez]

TIE GAME. 65-65.

[Dead]

MONEY.

[JinX11]

[ QUOTE ]
TIE GAME. 65-65.

[/ QUOTE ]

Clutch 3 by Felton.

[Dead]

Where's Illinois going to go after Ingram fouls out?

[Cubswin]

one foul on may... good officiating

[MEbenhoe]

Even if he wins, Roy Williams still is a terrible big game coach. Seriously, how wide open Williams is every time down the court is ridiculous. Keep it up Roy.

[Number4]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say they will shoot threes.

[JinX11]

[ QUOTE ]
Even if he wins, Roy Williams still is a terrible big game coach. Seriously, how wide open Williams is every time down the court is ridiculous. Keep it up Roy.

[/ QUOTE ]

He can suck donkey balls as long as they win this game.

[MEbenhoe]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Even if he wins, Roy Williams still is a terrible big game coach. Seriously, how wide open Williams is every time down the court is ridiculous. Keep it up Roy.

[/ QUOTE ]

He can suck donkey balls as long as they win this game.

[/ QUOTE ]

very true, I was merely making this comment because if they win suddenly it will be as though Roy isn't the worst big game coach ever, while he clearly still is.

[Cubswin]

Where's Illinois going to go after Ingram fouls out?

bring in nick smith and his pointy elbows... god damn i should be the coach

[JinX11]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Even if he wins, Roy Williams still is a terrible big game coach. Seriously, how wide open Williams is every time down the court is ridiculous. Keep it up Roy.

[/ QUOTE ]

He can suck donkey balls as long as they win this game.

[/ QUOTE ]

very true, I was merely making this comment because if they win suddenly it will be as though Roy isn't the worst big game coach ever, while he clearly still is.

[/ QUOTE ]

"Worst" is strong. Gotta give Illinois credit for storming back like this.

[JinX11]

Terrible fast break.

[Jack of Arcades]

Oh snap!

[Dead]

Jeez.

[Cubswin]

FULL COURT PRESS

[Huskiez]

2:32 left, tie game.

Can you imagine if UNC loses this one?

[JinX11]

[ QUOTE ]
I predict one of the best Finals games in many years. In fact, I'm predicting an double overtime game.


[/ QUOTE ]

Settle in, boys and girls.

[Dead]

Roy will never hear the end of it if UNC loses this one. I really hope that they don't for that reason.

[JinX11]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
And another moving screen.

[/ QUOTE ]

[/ QUOTE ]

[/ QUOTE ]

Packer sees it. I see it. You see it, too.

[Dead]

I see it as well.

[Ulysses]

[ QUOTE ]
I don't care about either team, but this sure is an exciting game to watch.

[/ QUOTE ]

[JinX11]

Marvin Williams gets honorable mention for Goat of the Game.

[Dead]

Now I think it is over, but never say never with Illinois I guess.

[Huskiez]

[ QUOTE ]
Now I think it is over, but never say never with Illinois I guess.

[/ QUOTE ]

3 point game and 25 seconds left and it's over? In this game??

[JinX11]

[ QUOTE ]
I predict one of the best Finals games in many years. In fact, I'm predicting an double overtime game.


[/ QUOTE ]

Are you ready for the tying three from Illinois??

[Reef]

UNC wins. gg

[pshreck]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I predict one of the best Finals games in many years. In fact, I'm predicting an double overtime game.


[/ QUOTE ]

Are you ready for the tying three from Illinois??

[/ QUOTE ]

Looks like no.

Now its all but over. They just have to make 1 of these.

[Dead]

Congratulations to the Tar Heels of North Carolina.

They have earned this victory.

[JinX11]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I predict one of the best Finals games in many years. In fact, I'm predicting an double overtime game.


[/ QUOTE ]

Are you ready for the tying three from Illinois??

[/ QUOTE ]

Looks like no.

Now its all but over. They just have to make 1 of these.

[/ QUOTE ]

w00t!!!

[Dead]

CONGRATULATIONS to ROY WILLIAMS as well. You earned it Roy.

[pshreck]

What a weak, weak ending to a good game. That was a shame.

[Vince Young]

May and McCants having sweaty man sex?

[Jack of Arcades]

[ QUOTE ]
CONGRATULATIONS to ROY WILLIAMS as well. You earned it Roy.

[/ QUOTE ]

[JinX11]

[ QUOTE ]


The dream is complete....

UNC beats Wisconsin in the Regional Finals. ---CHECK---
UNC beats Michigan St. the National Semis. ---CHECK---
UNC beats Illinois in the Finals. ---CHECK---

I rag every Big Ten supporter on 2+2 for a long, long time.


[/ QUOTE ]

DANGERGOODSON - I'm calling you out, sucka!!!!!! Ahhh hahahahahaha! ACC pwns!

[MEbenhoe]

[ QUOTE ]
CONGRATULATIONS to ROY WILLIAMS as well. You earned it Roy.

[/ QUOTE ]

NO

[istewart]

Good game, but call an illegal screen next time. On either team, Christ.

[Dead]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
CONGRATULATIONS to ROY WILLIAMS as well. You earned it Roy.

[/ QUOTE ]

NO

[/ QUOTE ]

YES. DUKE LOSES. DUKE LOSES.

THE YANKEEES WIN. THUHH YANKEEEES WIN!!!!!

[zaxx19]

Stat of the game:

Ill is 27/68 from the field.

12/38 from the 3 point line. They shoot better they probably win. Its really that simple.

[TaxGoddess]

GO HEELS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y70/emlyb/1heel.jpg

[Creepy Guy]

YEAHHH UNC!!!!

[prizminferno]

CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!!

[MEbenhoe]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
CONGRATULATIONS to ROY WILLIAMS as well. You earned it Roy.

[/ QUOTE ]

NO

[/ QUOTE ]

YES. DUKE LOSES. DUKE LOSES.

THE YANKEEES WIN. THUHH YANKEEEES WIN!!!!!

[/ QUOTE ]

http://i.xanga.com/FusionGT2/rabbit%20and%20pancake.jpg

[zaxx19]

I get the feeling this wont be the last NC for Williams.

Im guessing 3 total when he steps away from the job.

UNC has rearrived. They will be a monster of a program barring some unforseen roadblocks.

[JinX11]

[ QUOTE ]
The matchup everyone has wanted all year is about to happen.

Illinois and UNC for all the marbles.

I've long maintaned that it was Illinois, then UNC, then everyone else. I still think that, and anticipate a great close game with Illinois pulling it out in a close one.

May is a beast but the key to this team is Felton and I think that our defense led by Deron Williams will be able to really disrupt him and the UNC offense. We have plenty of bodies to throw at May so that helps.

Anyways, it certainly feels like a heavyweight title fight. All year long hurtling towards each other. It should be a great one, I'll be there all decked in Orange.

Go Illinois!

[/ QUOTE ]

Clark - man, your team deserved better. Seriously. That Illini team has heart and that goes a long ways in my book.

[MEbenhoe]

[ QUOTE ]
UNC has rearrived. They will be a monster of a program barring some unforseen roadblocks.

[/ QUOTE ]

Like the sudden loss of all the talent that Williams didn't even recruit himself?

[Cubswin]

Congrats tar heel fans. Well deserved win... played a great game tonight.... and got few whistles against them /images/graemlins/wink.gif sean may gets one foul against him all night... no need for me to comment on that.

U of I is still the better team IMHO... AZ, UNC, DUKE.... all had more talent.... IL is a true team and a rarity in NCAA BB these days. they showed heart and win this game 6 out of 10 times. great season for the illini... they get a few bounces and a few more shots to fall and they win it.... unfortunately this was not their night... as a cub fan all i can say is ...."there's always next year"

cubs

ps... UNC has alway been my fav team after the illini (thanks to MJ). congrats to them again... and sean may is still fat.....

[JinX11]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
UNC has rearrived. They will be a monster of a program barring some unforseen roadblocks.

[/ QUOTE ]

Like the sudden loss of all the talent that Williams didn't even recruit himself?

[/ QUOTE ]

*ding!*

[Dead]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
UNC has rearrived. They will be a monster of a program barring some unforseen roadblocks.

[/ QUOTE ]

Like the sudden loss of all the talent that Williams didn't even recruit himself?

[/ QUOTE ]

http://www.nitro-movies.com/images/movies/Sour%20Grapes.jpg

[zaxx19]

Hmmm, I suppose the UNC underclassmen look talentless???

And of course an already attractive program winning a NC in a compelling games is horrible for recruiting.

I dont think talent is gonna be a problem @ UNC in the long run.

[Dead]

I told you that you guys would whine about the officiating.

[zaxx19]

Dude, you are a Yankee fan who doesnt live in NYC...

STFU.