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jenium
04-02-2005, 01:27 AM
Since i was already in the money, maybe this hand is worth gambling on? What would you guys have done? If the SB had folded, it's a clear call, right?

***** Hand History for Game 1828658114 *****
500/1000 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 10913286) - Fri Apr 01 17:10:57 EST 2005
Table Table 12185 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 1: noonehasthis (2988)
Seat 2: jenium (2150)
Seat 6: bkirk123 (2862)
noonehasthis posts small blind (250)
jenium posts big blind (500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to jenium [ 9s, As ]
bkirk123 raises (2862) to 2862
bkirk123 is all-In.
noonehasthis calls (2612)
jenium folds.
Creating Main Pot with $6224 with bkirk123
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3s, Td, Jd ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Js ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 7s ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 6224 |
Board: [ 3s Td Jd Js 7s ]
noonehasthis balance 126, lost 2862 [ 9d Ah ] [ a pair of jacks -- Ah,Jd,Js,Td,9d ]
jenium balance 1650, lost 500 (folded)
bkirk123 balance 6224, bet 2862, collected 6224, net +3362 [ 3d 3h ] [ a full house, Threes

lastchance
04-02-2005, 01:32 AM
If SB folds, this is the easiest call in the world. I think since SB called, laying down A9s is reasonable, but I don't know.

Bigwig
04-02-2005, 01:32 AM
I think this is a +chip EV call, and a +$EV fold. I think, that is. One of these ICM wizards can punch it out. But I think you made the right play.

curtains
04-02-2005, 02:03 AM
I would fold here, as since you have less money than both opponents, you are basically guaranteed 2nd by folding. If your hand was stronger you'd probably have to play anyway (ie AQ-AK), but It's quite reasonable for A9s to be beaten here.

Apathy
04-02-2005, 03:07 AM
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I would fold here, as since you have less money than both opponents, you are basically guaranteed 2nd by folding. If your hand was stronger you'd probably have to play anyway (ie AQ-AK), but It's quite reasonable for A9s to be beaten here.

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I think AQ is certaintly a fold here, you really call with that?

BradleyT
04-02-2005, 03:33 AM
Blinds are 250/500. Villians don't need aces to be pushing here.

Apathy
04-02-2005, 03:37 AM
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Blinds are 250/500. Villians don't need aces to be pushing here.

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Didnt say they did.

BradleyT
04-02-2005, 03:38 AM
They should be pushing with any 2 cards here - they have 5-6xBB each. Why on earth would you say AQ is a fold?

Apathy
04-02-2005, 03:47 AM
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They should be pushing with any 2 cards here - they have 5-6xBB each. Why on earth would you say AQ is a fold?

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There are several reasons...

1. Why should the button push any two here?? If you push even 50% of your hands here you are making a mistake unless your opponents are insanely tight (not likely).

2. The caller needs a fairly strong hand to call all his chips with.

3. If you fold you get second practically regardless of the outcome of the hand.

lastchance
04-02-2005, 03:53 AM
You don't think SB is calling with say A9-AJ, which you dominate? KQ, which you dominate? And if SB is calling with that, then Button's pushing range has to be much wider.

Pretty clear call with AQ, IMHO.

raptor517
04-02-2005, 08:50 AM
well, i definitely hate calling 2 allins with AQ/AK. you can very easily be up against a one small pair, and something like AJ/AQ, which cuts down your outs, blah blah. i definitely fold A9 here. i would love to see an icm calc about calling with AK though. i think AQ would be close, but i would probably sigh heavily and call with AK. also, another thing to note, you are chip leader at the moment, sooo, you cant bust on this hand. 3uo

curtains
04-02-2005, 02:28 PM
You aren't chip leader, you are in last place. If you were chip leader I think AK and AQ are very easy calls.