Fold Aces Pre-Flop?

[Degen]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

BB (t670)
UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t775)
MP1 (t1005)
MP2 (t505)
Hero (t775)
CO (t310)
Button (t645)
SB (t2515)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t60</font>, CO calls t60, Button calls t60, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t105</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t90, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t310 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t645 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t980</font>, MP1 folds, Hero ???

[Apathy]

Your gonna get flamed bad for this one

[Unarmed]

Finally, a fold AA thread where it actually makes sense to do so.

<font color="white">April Fools I presume?</font>

[The Yugoslavian]

See, Degen, the problem with this post is that given your recent track record, people will actually believe that you're serious. This means you will get flamed. Ergo, not much of an April Fools.

If you actually are serious. I'm speechless...and so is she
&lt;------------

Yugoslav

[Nottom]

You play goot!

[gasgod]

[ QUOTE ]
Finally, a fold AA thread where it actually makes sense to do so.

<font color="white">April Fools I presume?</font>

[/ QUOTE ]

<font color="white">I'll be glad when midnight arrives</font>


GG

[Voltron87]

Hands (1 per line)
ah ad
ac as
kc kd
qc qh
jc jd
5c 5h
ts th
9s 9h
8c 8d





Result
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=862630
pokenum -h ah ad - ac as - kc kd - qc qh - jc jd - 5c 5h - ts th - 9s 9h - 8c 8d
Holdem Hi: 278256 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ad Ah 3447 1.24 260422 93.59 14387 5.17 0.038
As Ac 4263 1.53 259606 93.30 14387 5.17 0.040
Kc Kd 65392 23.50 212381 76.33 483 0.17 0.235
Qc Qh 50926 18.30 226847 81.52 483 0.17 0.183
Jc Jd 39578 14.22 238195 85.60 483 0.17 0.142
5c 5h 23119 8.31 254654 91.52 483 0.17 0.083
Ts Th 31012 11.15 246761 88.68 483 0.17 0.112
9s 9h 25095 9.02 252678 90.81 483 0.17 0.090
8c 8d 21037 7.56 256736 92.27 483 0.17 0.076

[Degen]

well looks like my estimation of the PF %'s were off...AA is 54% vs the field...i thought it was a lot less.

so i guess the ICM would be right here...BUT STILL....that is horrible! that's an easy call if it were a cash game....but if i lose this hand (which i will 46% of the time) i'm done!

I called this time, and i will always call because 'you never fold aces PF' but DEEAMMMMM GEEEENA!!!!! if ever there were a time....THIS IS IT!!!


Degen

[Degen]

recent track record?

you mean at the tables or public opinion? sorry if i offended a bad player who posts often on this forum. that does not detract from my abilities or knowldge, as far as i can tell...


Degen

[raptor517]

who the hell though of april fools day? sigh...

[Voltron87]

Read my post above. Not that it would ever happen.

[valenzuela]

Hero jumps , dances around, sits downs, grabs the mouse, presses call and triples up like 60% of the time.

[Degen]

ya that was real cool

Degen

[Shanemex]

I got all-in against three people on the first hand of a SnG once. Two of us had AA (including me /images/graemlins/mad.gif) and the other two had KK and 55. I was drawing dead after the flop /images/graemlins/frown.gif I should have folded preflop /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[raptor517]

mmm, i think if ever there was a time this is NOT it. but what do i know, im just a stupid kid /images/graemlins/wink.gif holla

[kyro]

So 54% of the time you quadruple up and basically coast into the money? Man, if I had a chance to make the money 54% of the time I would take it every chance I got.

[SNOWBALL138]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[1C5]

Your questions get sillier by the day.

How are you a winning palyer if you even think of folding AA here?

[jwg152]

I would lay it down for sure. You just have to put one of these cats on wired JOKERS. /images/graemlins/grin.gif