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iturner187
04-01-2005, 11:39 AM
I am unsure as to how to play this hand. Obviously I want to be the person raising all in, but will I find a better spot to get my chips in?

Assume no reads on the villian.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (7 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP1 (t3150)
MP2 (t1340)
Hero (t640)
Button (t655)
SB (t1020)
BB (t820)
UTG (t375)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t3150 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t640 (All-In), <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.


Final Pot: t4090

lorinda
04-01-2005, 11:45 AM
Yes.

The only time you would consider folding this would be if you had a really good chance of folding into 3rd place and with a stack considerably smaller than you have in this example.
I would go as far as to say that if you never folded Queens you wouldn't make more than one mistake per 250 SNGs.

You're out of time to be choosy and you don't have much folding equity anyway.

Lori

Cleveland Guy
04-01-2005, 11:45 AM
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I am unsure as to how to play this hand. Obviously I want to be the person raising all in, but will I find a better spot to get my chips in?

Assume no reads on the villian.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (7 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP1 (t3150)
MP2 (t1340)
Hero (t640)
Button (t655)
SB (t1020)
BB (t820)
UTG (t375)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t3150 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t640 (All-In), <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.


Final Pot: t4090

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You are no where near the money - you have 3 BBs left, and have one of the top 4 starting hands.

You will run into an underpair, AQ-Ax, KQ way more often than AA or KK. Even against AK your still 50/50.

NO BRAINER

Edited because I can't type today.

YourFoxyGrandma
04-01-2005, 11:47 AM
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Even against KK your still 50/50.

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I really hope you mean AK.

Rolen
04-01-2005, 11:49 AM
This is almost the perfect spot to get your money in, assuming no-one else calls you're getting around 1.5/1 on your money with a hand that is almost certainly ahead.

willie
04-01-2005, 11:50 AM
you have 3 bets left.

there is no choice here.

Phil Van Sexton
04-01-2005, 11:51 AM
Is this an April Fools question?

You should be calling with hands MUCH worse than QQ here.

iturner187
04-01-2005, 12:23 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
I am unsure as to how to play this hand. Obviously I want to be the person raising all in, but will I find a better spot to get my chips in?

Assume no reads on the villian.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (7 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP1 (t3150)
MP2 (t1340)
Hero (t640)
Button (t655)
SB (t1020)
BB (t820)
UTG (t375)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t3150 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t640 (All-In), <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.


Final Pot: t4090

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You are no where near the money - you have 3 BBs left, and have one of the top 4 starting hands.

You will run into an underpair, AQ-Ax, KQ way more often than AA or KK. Even against AK your still 50/50.

NO BRAINER

Edited because I can't type today.

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Exactly what I thought. Thanks for the input guys and gals.

pooh74
04-01-2005, 01:03 PM
WHat Phil said...and to boot...Unless BS is especially clever (doubt it) I usually see this PF move with medium pairs...i'd be surprised to even see AK here (which in reality is the ONLY hand I am even close to fearing here...no chance of AA, KK here, unless again, he is using reverse reverse psychology...who knows)

no brainer

Voltron87
04-01-2005, 01:09 PM
Call. Took me less than a second. You have QQ and 640 chips. All in.

Nottom
04-01-2005, 01:29 PM
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I usually see this PF move with medium pairs...i'd be surprised to even see AK here (which in reality is the ONLY hand I am even close to fearing here...no chance of AA, KK here, unless again, he is using reverse reverse psychology...who knows)

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Oddly enough, the past 3 times I've seen this move its been with AA. Granted, I'm still calling with QQ here about 120% of the time (give or take 20%).

TheUsher
04-01-2005, 02:36 PM
You have to call this one since your stack is only 3xBB. If this were Level:1 though and it was an all-in to you, you might be able to have some arguments on folding it...