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xorbie
04-01-2005, 06:47 AM
Axs is one of my leaks I feel, so I'd like my play analyzed. PF, a min-raise could mean KK/AA but it could mean a low PP or some crap offsuit broadway so I'm not too concerned, and I don't plan on going to the felt with TPNK anyway. The weak bet UTG smelled like a missed AK to me, so I re-raise in the hopes of getting the turn checked to me. When he re-raises I figure he has a nice PP, and the guy behind me is the same douche as in the other hand so I'm thinking he might pay me off as well and is probably calling. Considering the re-raise, I figure on the flop I have 9 flush outs, 3 aces (against TT-KK) and 3 5's for a total of 15 outs, which is not bad for the priceodds the bet is laying me. Good? Bad?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP1 ($25)
MP2 ($72.45)
Hero ($37.27)
CO ($46.4)
Button ($21.6)
SB ($37.2)
BB ($4.4)
UTG ($23.5)
UTG+1 ($29.45)
UTG+2 ($23.95)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif. MP1 posts a blind of $0.25. SB posts a blind of $0.1.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $0.5</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.50, SB (poster) calls $0.40, BB calls $0.25.

Flop: ($2.75) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, Button calls $3, SB folds, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $7</font>, Hero calls $4, Button calls $4.

Turn: ($23.75) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

UTG bets $7, Hero pushes.

River: ($23.75) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Final Pot: $23.75

MarkL444
04-01-2005, 07:04 AM
preflop is marginal
i just call on the flop
on the turn i cant tell if youre heads up or not. either way i like a push.

xorbie
04-01-2005, 07:05 AM
I'm not heads up, there's UTG (same complete maniac from the other hand) still to act.

jkkkk
04-01-2005, 07:07 AM
i don't like the re-raise on the flop, you've managed to give yourself incorrect pot odds.

aside from that, nice hand.

xorbie
04-01-2005, 07:10 AM
Yeah I agree with this. At the time I was thinking "hey I have a draw, I better raise to get free cards" not realizing that either he has nothing at all or will pop it back.

nrinker
04-01-2005, 07:37 AM
damn xorbie, you must be on a nice run of cards, after 200 hands with you, you have a filthy vpip.

xorbie
04-01-2005, 07:45 AM
How filthy? My VPIP is normally around 28% I think.

nrinker
04-01-2005, 07:49 AM
it was above 30 on table 37614, i guess your right near your norm. Im just a hella tightwad i guess.

xorbie
04-01-2005, 07:53 AM
No, I just suck at poker. At least that's how I feel after tonight.

nrinker
04-01-2005, 08:06 AM
im curious what all your playing and from where with a 27% ish vpip. Mine is about 12, so we play alot differently, mind sharing? Im by no means a great player, so im looking for any and all idea's.

xorbie
04-01-2005, 08:13 AM
SC all over, S1G from MP and on, any two broadway on the button, decent connectors on the button (78+) if there is only one limper, also J9o on the button cuz I like it.

Axs and pp I limp everywhere if the table is passive enough.

I avoid limping with dominated hands in EP (KJ, QJ, QT, KT, AT) but I do limp KQ and AJ. In MP I will usually limp in with QJ and TJ, and KJ if I'm the first in.

swedeD
04-01-2005, 11:09 AM
I would really appreciate if someone could post a list with explanations of the position abbreviations that are used in this forum...

tbach24
04-01-2005, 11:11 AM
I really don't understand people's enfatuations with Axs. I prefer off-suit connectors.

xorbie
04-01-2005, 11:28 AM
Axs = better against KQ. That's my philosophy. It also makes for superior two pair with better action, and if you hit two pair you aren't as susceptible to straight draws. Of course connectors get payed off better on straights than flushes do (less easy to spot for most).

swolfe
04-01-2005, 01:16 PM
[ QUOTE ]
I would really appreciate if someone could post a list with explanations of the position abbreviations that are used in this forum...

[/ QUOTE ]

MP - middle position (1, 2, and 3)
Hero - we're seeing the hand from his perspective
CO - cut off: 1 in front of the button
Button - the dealer button: last to act post-flop
SB - small blind
BB - big blind
UTG - under the gun: first after BB, first to act pre-flop
UTG+1 - one to the left of UTG

BobboFitos
04-01-2005, 05:08 PM
pf call is ok.

raise more on the flop or not at all. I like just caling here; not because your draw isn't very strong, (it is, you probably have like 45% pot equity 5 handed) but youcan attract others in with weaker flush draws / straight draws drawing slim vs you / etc.

Turn is fine once you've isolated, IF he's drawing he's got 3 outs (but likely none)

BobboFitos
04-01-2005, 05:09 PM
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I would really appreciate if someone could post a list with explanations of the position abbreviations that are used in this forum...

[/ QUOTE ]

MP - middle position (1, 2, and 3)
Hero - we're seeing the hand from his perspective
CO - cut off: 1 in front of the button
Button - the dealer button: last to act post-flop
SB - small blind
BB - big blind
UTG - under the gun: first after BB, first to act pre-flop
UTG+1 - one to the left of UTG

[/ QUOTE ]

here's a self-boosting post:

where's that FAQ when you needit?... /images/graemlins/smile.gif

tbach24
04-01-2005, 05:14 PM
45o is better than A2s. As you stated straight draws are more deceptive, however when you're more likely to hit two pair with 45o than A2s and get paid off. This is because when getting paid off with A2s you hit a flop like A82 and get against a guy with AT. Your ace was sharing with the guy with AT, however when it comes A45, you're still get as much, but you had more outs to begin with. Make sense?

xorbie
04-02-2005, 04:43 AM
True, and good point.

Any way as to results:

The guy behind me had 6/images/graemlins/club.gif7/images/graemlins/club.gif and took my stack. Boo hoo. The fish ended up leaving the table with over $200.