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theredpill5
04-01-2005, 12:13 AM
Here is the hand:

Tell me what you think. Looks awfully suspicious.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Hero (t800)
MP3 (t800)
CO (t905)
Button (t740)
SB (t785)
BB (t785)
UTG (t785)
UTG+1 (t800)
UTG+2 (t800)
MP1 (t800)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls t15, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, CO calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t57.50) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t250</font>, UTG folds, CO calls t250, SB folds.

Turn: (t557.50) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t250</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t500</font>, CO calls t20.

River: (t1327.50) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t1327.50

CO shows 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif J/images/graemlins/club.gif
BB shows J/images/graemlins/spade.gif 6/images/graemlins/club.gif

I had the guy admit to being a cheater. Here is the screen capture with him admitting it.

http://img14.imgspot.com/u/05/89/22/Capture3312005269895.30.26AMnew.jpg


Here is party Poker's reply to my e-mail:

We have investigated the players, verifying their accounts, examining
their game patterns, and their standing with the site, in an effort to
examine any possible association between them.

Our focus was directed in an effort to examine any possible association
either by way of hand histories or by way of any linkages between them
by way of financial information or other parameters before coming to
any manner of a conclusion.

In this particular case and after a detailed investigation on their
hand history and by comparing their style of game play individually and
also based on the above parameters, we have been able to draw a
conclusion that there has been no foul play involved here.

We are glad to have players who care about the integrity of
PartyPoker.com, and will always investigate fully any suspicious activity
submitted by our players. We appreciate your concern in maintaining the
integrity of our games and thank you for reporting the same.

Thank for being a member of our Party Poker family.

Contact us anytime, we are available around the clock to assist you
with your account related questions and suggestions.

Sincerely,

Nicholas Bradman
Investigations Team
alerts@PartyPoker.com

Creeper_thp
04-01-2005, 12:16 AM
I think his poker ability is only matched by your ability to recognize sarcasm

Edge34
04-01-2005, 12:19 AM
I think you're on a friggin' witch hunt bro. Hands like that happen ALL the damn time. What do you want to have happen, get all the bad players' accounts closed???

theredpill5
04-01-2005, 12:24 AM
I frequently bet 250 into a 50 chip pot with bottom pair of 6's . ??? Ok, maybe I was wrong but the hand is messed up. Anyone else have opinions ?

TheUsher
04-01-2005, 12:26 AM
Why in the world would someone try to cheat in a 10+1? This is just fish at their finest. Did you enjoy taking their chips after?

theredpill5
04-01-2005, 12:29 AM
No, I was out in 5th. Everytime I got a hand, IDexter got a better one. Then some guy limped in with AA when I was 5x blind and I was out. I didn't play that well partly because IDexter wouldn't shut up. He kept commenting on every single hand and play. I should have turned the chat off which I do now.

TheUsher
04-01-2005, 12:34 AM
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No, I was out in 5th. Everytime I got a hand, IDexter got a better one. Then some guy limped in with AA when I was 5x blind and I was out. I didn't play that well partly because IDexter wouldn't shut up. He kept commenting on every single hand and play. I should have turned the chat off which I do now.

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I bet you put a note on them though so if you ever see him again you'll get the better of him. /images/graemlins/grin.gif There's many many many more of those type of people out there so just right-click and ignore their chat.

iMsoLucky0
04-01-2005, 01:05 AM
Jesus christ you are an idiot. You don't deserve the right to post if you are really this stupid.

eastbay
04-01-2005, 01:11 AM
"Arrest me officer, I'm guilty."

Come on, man. Get a grip.

eastbay

theredpill5
04-01-2005, 01:12 AM
NO

I swear. I'm gonna jump. I swear to god, I'll jump !!

TheUsher
04-01-2005, 01:20 AM
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Jesus christ you are an idiot. You don't deserve the right to post if you are really this stupid.

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Me or OP?

Re: turned in Cheater but Party Poker doesn't care....read response [Re: TheUsher] &lt;-----

kyro
04-01-2005, 01:22 AM
[ QUOTE ]
I frequently bet 250 into a 50 chip pot with bottom pair of 6's . ??? Ok, maybe I was wrong but the hand is messed up. Anyone else have opinions ?

[/ QUOTE ]

you have no idea the restraint i'm exercising in order to not call you an idiot. oops.

Maulik
04-01-2005, 01:23 AM
must love fish, hehe

Degen
04-01-2005, 01:26 AM
its poor play yes...but how is that cheating?

Degen

Degen
04-01-2005, 01:28 AM
IMO the only thing separating the OP from the fish he is referring to is he is here w/ his story

lol


Degen

theredpill5
04-01-2005, 01:44 AM
the OP ? What is OP ?

pooh74
04-01-2005, 01:55 AM
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the OP ? What is OP ?

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Ocean Pacific. It was a popular brand of sports/beachwear back in the 80's...Jams type shorts, hawain style shirts etc...they were worn near the beach, hence the reference to "fish"....

(its very apparent I am burnt out...nite all)

theredpill5
04-01-2005, 02:02 AM
So you are calling me a fish ? Yeah OK. This guy wasn't a cheater . That doesn't make me a fish.

pooh74
04-01-2005, 02:06 AM
[ QUOTE ]
So you are calling me a fish ? Yeah OK. This guy wasn't a cheater . That doesn't make me a fish.

[/ QUOTE ]

I wasnt...i have no clue...I just remember liking OP as a kid.

(I dont think you should tattle tale next time so impulsively...gather facts first...get a magnifying glass, a funny hat and a friend named Holmes)

Chaos81
04-01-2005, 02:16 AM
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gather facts first...get a magnifying glass, a funny hat and a friend named Holmes)

[/ QUOTE ]
Okay, I've got some facts, I've got a magnifying glass, (well, upstairs somewhere), a funny hata and I've got a friend named Holmes. Now what do I do? /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

pooh74
04-01-2005, 02:19 AM
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
gather facts first...get a magnifying glass, a funny hat and a friend named Holmes)

[/ QUOTE ]
Okay, I've got some facts, I've got a magnifying glass, (well, upstairs somewhere), a funny hata and I've got a friend named Holmes. Now what do I do? /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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ah dude...didnt think anyone would do it. guess the game's a foot or something? or is it feet?

dtbog
04-01-2005, 02:27 AM
You're a fucking moron.

-dB

theredpill5
04-01-2005, 02:30 AM
Good thing I'm in a good mood. No, you're a [censored] moron. You [censored] micro-limit playing child molestor.

theredpill5
04-01-2005, 02:33 AM
Go play .01/.02 NL games. You [censored] queer.

Daliman
04-01-2005, 02:47 AM
This is OBVIOUSLY cheating. It is only possible to bluff at a scare card with a completely busted hand, not a hand with a pair in it, therefore, this is obviously cheating, and not possibly a high-level play. These must be the 2 colluders that we've been looking for. They've been taking down the 10+1's for dozen of dollars a day. Getting them to admit it also should stand up well in kangaroo court. TY for the headsup. Don't listen to the rest of these guys. Some of them dont even make 10k a month playing SNG's! You, sir, are a credit to humanity.

kyro
04-01-2005, 02:48 AM
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Go play .01/.02 NL games. You [censored] queer.

[/ QUOTE ]

HHAAHHAAHHAFJDAKFKA

dude, you made a ridiculously stupid post. you're gonna get flamed whether you like it or not.

Nottom
04-01-2005, 03:16 AM
So you think this guys is using 2 accounts so that he can chip dump to himself and double up in a $10 SNG?

Even if he was doing that, its actually helping you more than him so who cares.

Lefthander
04-01-2005, 04:55 AM
Not that anyone's believing this anyway, but Poker Prophecy numbers on the alleged cheater:

Player idexter
Games played 109
Wins 16 (14.68%)
Losses 93 (85.32%)
Average Buy-In $6.19
Players with better winning percentage 167845
Players with worse winning percentage 82106
$20 Table: 0 wins / 4 losses / 0% wins
$10 Table: 2 wins / 12 losses / 14.29% wins
$5 Table: 14 wins / 77 losses / 15.38% wins
Player:

If this guy's cheating, I wish they all would.

TheUsher
04-01-2005, 05:00 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Not that anyone's believing this anyway, but Poker Prophecy numbers on the alleged cheater:

Player idexter
Games played 109
Wins 16 (14.68%)
Losses 93 (85.32%)
Average Buy-In $6.19
Players with better winning percentage 167845
Players with worse winning percentage 82106
$20 Table: 0 wins / 4 losses / 0% wins
$10 Table: 2 wins / 12 losses / 14.29% wins
$5 Table: 14 wins / 77 losses / 15.38% wins
Player:

If this guy's cheating, I wish they all would.

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Yeah man this guy's so good he even cheats Poker Prophecy. Not that I fully trust the numbers anyways though since it shows me at 37 games when it should be 115 on my new nick for this week. Just imagine how many games that dude actually played and lost. /images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Lefthander
04-01-2005, 05:07 AM
I suppose placing in 14 out of 91 5+1s would be a pretty good smoke screen for cheating. Any nonsense play seems defensible with that record.

theredpill5
04-01-2005, 05:18 AM
So what are my stats in Poker Prophecy ? I'm on the screen capture. I'm surprised you didn't look it up. I posted two more wins today. I had a two or three SNG losing streak. Don't play when you have an ear infection, BTW.

jjj93421

TheUsher
04-01-2005, 05:23 AM
[ QUOTE ]
So what are my stats in Poker Prophecy ? I'm on the screen capture. I'm surprised you didn't look it up. I posted two more wins today. I had a two or three SNG losing streak. Don't play when you have an ear infection, BTW.

jjj93421

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Player jjj93421
Games played 5
Wins 3 (60%)
Losses 2 (40%)
Average Buy-In $10
Players with better winning percentage 16815
Players with worse winning percentage 233136
$10 Table: 3 wins / 2 losses / 60% wins

boondockst
04-01-2005, 07:53 AM
I'm VERY impressed party even replied to that crap...there's a lot of analogies i could use to illustrate the stupidiity here but i won't go there.

YourFoxyGrandma
04-01-2005, 11:03 AM
[ QUOTE ]
No, I was out in 5th. Everytime I got a hand, IDexter got a better one. Then some guy limped in with AA when I was 5x blind and I was out. I didn't play that well partly because IDexter wouldn't shut up. He kept commenting on every single hand and play. I should have turned the chat off which I do now.

[/ QUOTE ]

Sounds to me like you're just a little bit bitter.

codewarrior
04-01-2005, 11:07 AM
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/QuantumDot/stfu.jpg

Degen
04-01-2005, 05:45 PM
you are the OP (original poster: donkey: fish..whatever)

Degen

Degen
04-01-2005, 05:47 PM
hey man...go ahead and use the SEARCH feature for awhile, play some SNG's....learn a thing or two about what we're discussing here before you start making all kinds of posts/enemies etc.

Degen

Degen
04-01-2005, 05:48 PM
LOL

i seriously fell out of my chair laughing when i read this


Degen

Tugena
04-01-2005, 06:03 PM
[ QUOTE ]
I suppose placing in 14 out of 91 5+1s would be a pretty good smoke screen for cheating. Any nonsense play seems defensible with that record.

[/ QUOTE ]

Clearly you underestimate the intelligence of these scumbags. It's classic misdirection. Thank God we have people like theredpill out there watching out for these nefarious types.

pooh74
04-01-2005, 06:04 PM
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Go play .01/.02 NL games. You [censored] queer.

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh yeah?? Well you go and play pot limit omaha 8 or better high hand wins NL!!!!

..............................

jerck!

KenProspero
04-01-2005, 06:34 PM
[ QUOTE ]
I frequently bet 250 into a 50 chip pot with bottom pair of 6's .

[/ QUOTE ]

If this isn't an April Fool's Joke, Where do you play, and under what nickname?

FlyingSumo
04-01-2005, 07:25 PM
I thought the main reason for cheating was to make money, not to lose them, then again, I might be wrong.

wayabvpar
04-01-2005, 08:42 PM
[ QUOTE ]
This is OBVIOUSLY cheating. It is only possible to bluff at a scare card with a completely busted hand, not a hand with a pair in it, therefore, this is obviously cheating, and not possibly a high-level play. These must be the 2 colluders that we've been looking for. They've been taking down the 10+1's for dozen of dollars a day. Getting them to admit it also should stand up well in kangaroo court. TY for the headsup. Don't listen to the rest of these guys. Some of them dont even make 10k a month playing SNG's! You, sir, are a credit to humanity.

[/ QUOTE ]

Well played.