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radek2166
03-31-2005, 03:09 PM
link (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050331/bs_nm/markets_oil_dc_16) Oil Surges $2 on 'Super-Spike' Prediction



LONDON (Reuters) - Oil hurtled back up to $56 a barrel on Thursday as Goldman Sachs bank, the biggest trader of energy derivatives, said prices could ultimately surge all the way above $100.




The Goldman Sachs report strengthened gains driven by a fall in U.S. gasoline stocks and fresh buying from investment funds as the dollar weakened.


U.S. light crude jumped $2.11, or 3.9 percent, to a high of $56.10 a barrel, within $1.50 of a $57.60 record high struck on March 17.


Benchmark Brent futures leapt $2.76 to $54.85, catching up with Wednesday's late recovery on the New York market, which this week closes an hour later than the London exchange.


Oil prices have climbed around 25 percent this year as signals that rapid demand growth in emerging economies China and India will strain world supply ignited heavy buying from big-money funds.


Goldman Sachs bank (NYSE:GS - news) said in a research report on Thursday that oil markets have entered a "super-spike" period that could see prices rising as high as $105 a barrel.


"We believe oil markets may have entered the early stages of what we have referred to as a "super spike" period -- a multi-year trading band of oil prices high enough to meaningfully reduce energy consumption and recreate a spare capacity cushion only after which will lower energy prices return," Goldman's analysts wrote.


Goldman's Global Investment Research note also raised the bank's 2005 and 2006 NYMEX crude price forecasts to $50 and $55 respectively, from $41 and $40.


These forecasts sit at the top of a table of predictions from 25 analysts, consultants and government bodies surveyed by Reuters .


U.S. oil futures on the New York Mercantile Exchange have averaged $50.02 per barrel so far in 2005 up from a record $41.48 last year.


The U.S. government reported on Wednesday that U.S. gasoline supplies fell 2.9 million barrels to 214.4 million barrels last week, the fourth decline in a row ahead of summer when consumption peaks.


Gasoline demand has been running two percent higher than last year in the past four weeks, despite record prices at the pump, making the 6.3 percent inventory surplus versus last year's level less comforting than it would appear.


Also encouraging gains, the dollar -- the currency of global oil trade -- retreated further on Thursday from a five-month high against the yen.


A weaker dollar has encouraged funds to switch money from treasury markets into commodities, as well as insulating fuel consumption in non-dollar economies from the impact of higher crude prices.


The Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries raised its formal output ceiling by 500,000 barrels per day (bpd) to 27.5 million bpd in mid-March to pump up second-quarter global stocks, creating a cushion for anticipated year-end demand.

Shajen
03-31-2005, 03:22 PM
unborn kitten fetuses are the next "in" fuel.

You heard it hear first.

I drive a 2004 Ford F-150. I don't have the big honking 5.7L V-8, I have the smaller 4.6L. It still guzzles gas.

However, I knew that making my decision, so I don't feel I can bitch too much about the price of gas.

People who drive ubereconomical cars, though, they can bitch. They are actively trying to help the situation out and I'm pissing on their parade.

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Mars357
03-31-2005, 03:32 PM
I hear that there is LOTS of lovely oil under Alaska.... I say we go get it....

[censored] the environmentalists...[censored] the bears.....and [censored] the trees!

TimM
03-31-2005, 03:34 PM
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Time for the USA to find a new source of energy.

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Getting into politics a bit, but...

Hard to do with oil men in the White House, but part of the 9-11 response should have been a big push to turn the whole middle east back into something we don't have to care about or get involved in.

2planka
03-31-2005, 03:44 PM
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I drive a 2004 Ford F-150. I don't have the big honking 5.7L V-8, I have the smaller 4.6L. It still guzzles gas

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I drive the '04 F150 with the 5.4L V8. 37.5 gallon tank. 14 MPG. The tonneau cover helps a bit, but not much. This baby is a pig. I love it.

Shajen
03-31-2005, 03:47 PM
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I drive a 2004 Ford F-150. I don't have the big honking 5.7L V-8, I have the smaller 4.6L. It still guzzles gas

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I drive the '04 F150 with the 5.4L V8. 37.5 gallon tank. 14 MPG. The tonneau cover helps a bit, but not much. This baby is a pig. I love it.

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Yeah, 5.4 not 5.7.

I have the Supercab version. (What I guess most people call the extended cab.) This thing rides like a Caddy. Great truck. I do a lot of hauling crap around, so the tonneau cover didn't make much sense for me. Got the Line-X spray in bed liner though. It's awesome.

radek2166
03-31-2005, 04:57 PM
Rumor has it. That some guy years ago made a carburetor that would get the old Caddies with the 500CI engine 50 miles to the gallon.


The oil companies bought the Patent

chaas4747
03-31-2005, 05:00 PM
Yeah, I was speaking with my uncle earlier, he works for a large oil company, and he was saying some analyst think oil could hit $75 to $80 a barrel by the end of the year. Gas prices in the US $4.50 - $6.00. That will suck.

TimM
03-31-2005, 05:02 PM
http://www.snopes.com/autos/business/carburetor.asp

radek2166
03-31-2005, 05:05 PM
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That was quick!

Thanks

wacki
03-31-2005, 05:06 PM
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I hear that there is LOTS of lovely oil under Alaska.... I say we go get it....

[censored] the environmentalists...[censored] the bears.....and [censored] the trees!

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You heard wrong. ANWR is a drop in the bucket.

willie
03-31-2005, 05:15 PM
i have an 03 civic 4 cylinder...

i'm not about to bitch about this problem

if gas hits 4 bucks a gallon it'll be 40 to fill my car.

NOTHING compared to what pickup trucks and hummers will be paying

bwahahaha