40k in a month ( I guess 2/3 as cool as schneids and gonores)

[pfkaok]

So yeah, I know that the challenge thing is being a bit overdone, but I've been planning to do it for several months. But I'll admit, the exercise part of it I'm pretty much copying from danemania and Alobar (although I'll be swimming instead of running)... also I'm playin 15/30 full, so i'm not entirely copying them.

Anyways, considering that poker is my sole source of income, I feel like i've been increadbily lazy the last 6-8 months, and I hope that a challenge can provide some sort of motivation for myself. So, in that sense this is mostly a hands played challenge, and I'm shooting to play 70k hands in April. I have yet to play much over 40k, so as long as I even make it to 60k hands, then I'll be pleased, and hopefully I could get close to my $40,000 goal. BTW, i'll be counting rakeback as well, since its still money, so I would consider it to be a very successful month if I bring in that much, even if a lot of it was from rakeback. I mean being about a year out of college, I would be hard-pressed to find a job that paid much more than 40k a year, so I'd be quite pleased to make that in a single month.

As I mentioned, This is mostly a self-motivationthing, to be able to see it in writing and have a clear goal in mind. So if nobody else cares then i'll just keep it to myself, and maybe post results at the end... but if anyone out there is interested, then i'll post updates a couple times a week.

[bonanz]

I like to read everyone's challenges. I wish you luck.

[xpander]

GOGO GL HF DD.

[Alobar]

you poseur!! How dare you copy me, after I copied danemania...of all the nerve!! hehehe, j/k /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Good luck man, ill be reading with interest., I hope you make it!!

[Sponger15SB]

Hey remember like 5 months ago when we were both playing $50nl full ring.

Yeah now I'm playing .5/1 limit and you're playing 15/30.

Sponger = Jealous

[Justin A]

[ QUOTE ]
Hey remember like 5 months ago when we were both playing $50nl full ring.

Yeah now I'm playing .5/1 limit and you're playing 15/30.

Sponger = Jealous

[/ QUOTE ]

It's ok Sponger, you're playing way more tables than he is.

[Sponger15SB]

[ QUOTE ]
It's ok Sponger, you're playing way more tables than he is.

[/ QUOTE ]

Right, as a consolation prize I win carpal tunnel syndrome.

Go me!

Also pfkaok is probably 8 tabling, maybe more. Back in the day when we played NL full ring, we played like 1,500 hands together and never were all-in in a pot against each other cause we were so tight. The one hand we played against eachother was KK vs KK, and he was on a new screen name so I didn't know who he was at the time and he claims it was the closest he had ever came to folding KK preflop cause we were both such rocks.

[1800GAMBLER]

http://img70.exs.cx/img70/8172/march5qr.jpg


/images/graemlins/smile.gif GL!

[Alobar]

When I think of a funny comment about your 15/30 stats, ill be back!! /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[meanjean]

wow

[bicyclekick]

http://epoxy.morris.umn.edu/~clarkbj/pokerss/bkmarch.JPG

/images/graemlins/smile.gif

<--- still runs good.

gl pfkaok!

[jrobb83]

I've paid as much rake this month in 9k hands of 10/206max as you have in 8k hands of 50/100. That's very depressing.

[pfkaok]

[ QUOTE ]
Also pfkaok is probably 8 tabling

[/ QUOTE ]

yeah, I am doing 8 now. I really feel like i could do more than 8 since I started using hot keys about a month ago, and it makes things WAY easier, but I still try to exercise some table selection, and that would be near impossible if I was playing 10 or more. Plus at 15/30 the tables break up so damn quick, since a lot of people get scared to play SH once it gets to 7-8 handed. I'm always amazed how quickly it can go from a full table to completely breaking up. I mean I usually leave if it gets to 5 or 6 handed and there's no real soft spots, but I just hate having to switch tables so much when i'm trying to keep 8 open.

I do remember that KK hand, and i think that if I didn't have a new screenname, i probably would have layed it down... also if i remember right, i think you had been complaining about how bad you had been running before that, so i figured you'd be more likely to push after my re-raise with weaker hands, esp since you didn't have notes on me at the time.

[pfkaok]

Wow... those are some really impressive stats there BK. I must say its encouraging to see numbers like that from you and 1800, just to know that its possible to make that much if I can ever reach your guys' skill level (although I guess the running good part can't be learned).

As long as Party 15 stay as it is I'll probably stay there for a while, but if a have a few good months I might want to start messing around with the higher stuff from time to time. Where do you guys go to play those games, and how common are they?

[Anadrol 50]

How are you using hotkeys?

[xpander]

I definitely need to put more time in.

[pfkaok]

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How are you using hotkeys?

[/ QUOTE ]


I found a link to this site a while back, and then just went thru and changed a few things to make it work for dual monitor:

http://www.onlinepokerfaq.com/guide/mouseles-poker.html

[Alobar]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
How are you using hotkeys?

[/ QUOTE ]


I found a link to this site a while back, and then just went thru and changed a few things to make it work for dual monitor:

http://www.onlinepokerfaq.com/guide/mouseles-poker.html

[/ QUOTE ]

that the right link?? It doesnt go anywhere that talks about hot keys, and the links on that page go nowhere.....im really interested in this too

[pfkaok]

Sorry, My comp was being kinda weird, and it woudln't paste, so I had to type it in... i might have gotten something wrong... anyways, the link is in this thread:


http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1391402&page=&view=&sb=5& o=&vc=1


And yeah, I really like it. I had a few misclicks when I first started using it, but its really convenient, and I think its probably way better for my wrists.

[Saint_D]

well, Absolute Poker (http://www.absolutepoker.com/featuresHotKeys.asp) has kot keys...

still googling...

Aha

This seems to be it... (http://www.onlinepokerfaq.com/guide/mouseless-poker.html)

[TimM]

Maybe you could start a quest to see who can play in the most different currencies. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[JasonM]

Another brag post. /images/graemlins/smile.gif j/k

60k+ in Feb and now 87k+ in March, I am impressed. Keep it up.

Jason

[fearme]

u challenged me hu 200-400

[1800GAMBLER]

[ QUOTE ]
I must say its encouraging to see numbers like that from you and 1800, just to know that its possible to make that much if I can ever reach your guys' skill level (although I guess the running good part can't be learned).

[/ QUOTE ]

It's not possible to 'make that much'. This is just the high end of variance, even my 30/60 figure with 16k hands is nowhere near it's true win rate, infact, i think 16k hands probably doesn't even prove i'm a winning player in that game.

[johnnycakes]

[ QUOTE ]
u challenged me hu 200-400

[/ QUOTE ]

He didn't specify currency.
It was 200/400 Sklansky Bux.

[Alobar]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
u challenged me hu 200-400

[/ QUOTE ]

He didn't specify currency.
It was 200/400 Sklansky Bux.

[/ QUOTE ]

200/400 is the kiddie pool then. I've got about 4 billion dollars worth of sklansky bucks, as im sure does everyone else here /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[B1GF1SHY]

I've been reading (and posting on these forums rarely) for awhile and from the beginning you've been playing the 50nl tables. How long have you been playing these tables, and why aren't you moving up at all? I think you might have posted about how you tried the move to 100nl but it didn't work out. What's going on if you don't mind me asking?

[stinkypete]

[ QUOTE ]

/images/graemlins/smile.gif

<--- still runs good.

gl pfkaok!

[/ QUOTE ]

damn, i might lose this race :P

[pfkaok]

[ QUOTE ]
It's not possible to 'make that much'. This is just the high end of variance, even my 30/60 figure with 16k hands is nowhere near it's true win rate, infact, i think 16k hands probably doesn't even prove i'm a winning player in that game.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, i understand the possible inacuracy of a 16k, or even a 31k sample size like BK has... and I realize that both you guys were probably running pretty hot. I think I was most surprised to just see that there were that many 50/100 - 100/200 Dolar, Euro and pound games out there. I'm sure those games are really tough though, so his 2.36 BB/100 isn't possible, but his true win rate could very well be at least over half of that, right? Of course i'm totally ignorant, and just speculating about these games, but if they're impossible to be beaten for even 1 BB/100 then It almost seems like the swings would be so tremendous that they might not even be worth playing... even if you're the best player in the world.

[Sponger15SB]

[ QUOTE ]
u challenged me hu 200-400

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah I did and you declined. Pussy.

[bicyclekick]

My sample size is minescule and means next to nothing. I ran really well.

1.5bb/100 is what I think I can win in those games long term fwiw.

[Nikla]

I'm with you on this one. I really dont think these games played 10-handed with the regular lineup can be beaten for much if any more than 1.5BB/100. If you frequently hit these games when it's short and with acouple soft spots I'm sure you can run it up quite abit. But in the 10-handed scenario, I think 1-1.5bb/100 longterm is about as much as u can expect.

Congrats on the hot run though /images/graemlins/smile.gif
-Nikla

[bicyclekick]

Right, I play enough of the SH games too, which is why my vpip /pfr look a little high for a game of that level. You're right, typical line-up 10 handed game 1bb/100 seems about right. Depressing, really.

[sthief09]

Are you a proven winner at that game? How many hands are you going to play? What type of winrate will you need to sustain?

IMO I don't think you'll do it unless you're a sicko who plays 60 hours a week. you may be good enough, but statistical fluctuations will cause you to fail a lot of the time even if your true winrate will put you at 40k.

even with rakeback, I don't think there are many players that can say "I'm going to have a 40k month" because of variance

[bicyclekick]

Alright, a final ss for this month as I'm not going to be playing any more hands.

http://epoxy.morris.umn.edu/~clarkbj/pokerss/marchfinal.jpg

If anyone is wondering why the last one had 26 limits and this one 25, i purged schneids and I's HU donk match from my DB.

[sthief09]

so close to 100k

[AviD]

bot

[pfkaok]

[ QUOTE ]
Are you a proven winner at that game? How many hands are you going to play? What type of winrate will you need to sustain?


[/ QUOTE ]


Well, I don't have a ton of hands, but I think I have at least enough to say that i'm almost certainly a winner. I only started a little over a month ago, and I have about 50k hands at just over 2 BB/100. I don't think that i've been running overly well, but of course its imposssible to say for sure. I also like to think that i've improved at least a little from when I started, and have gotten a little more used to how the game plays, but anyways... i really hope my truewinrate is at least near the 2.0 range. Also, I do have a degree in math, and learned enough stats to realize that this sample size is pretty meaningless in terms of true win rate accuracy. So if I am in fact only a .5 BB winner, then perhaps this challenge will expose my suckiness (again, I was a math major, so i'm not sure if thats really a word), and motivate me to put in a lot more study hours to learn more about the game.

Anyways playing 8 tables I can get 500 hands/hour, even with some table selection and a decent amount of switching. So as long as I can play 30-35 hours a week (which is tough for me, and thats what the real "challenge" here is), then 65 - 70k hands should be possible. If I can run at 2 BB/100, then 60k hands would give me $36,000, and rakeback should push it over 40. If I can get in 70k, then I'd only have to run about 1.6 -1.7 BB/100, which is pretty reasonable I think.

I know that I can never be guarenteed of that, and I'll need a decent amount of luck to succeed at my quest, which I think makes it fun... but after all, as long as I get my hands in, even if I only do 1 BB/100 I'll still feel good about myself, and will be happy that I pushed myself hard. Of course any winning player in a challenge like this will have a chance of success somewhere between 0 and 1 depending on their skill level and such, and I'd like to think that if I do actually get the hands in that i'll have at least a 1/6 - 1/2 chance, which would be the case if my true win rate is in the 1 - 2 range.

Also, thanks to everyone for wishing me luck, as I know I'll need at least better than average luck to have a chance at reaching my goal.

[Schneids]

I hope you didn't purge our 100/200 HU out too /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[surfdoc]

That is absolutely insane. Congrats man. That is effing sick. Anyone who does this deserves to brag. Unreal.

[fearme]

after u post the blind and i win ur bust lol, don't act like such a tough guy, i've seen ur pic, ur the goofiest guy i've iver seen in my life

[BreakEvenPlayer]

Wow. $84,000 of your winnings came from those top 8 levels in 17K hands. Yeah you are running extremely well.

[rwesty]

This is more than $100k after conversion to American dollars. Nice month.

[sthief09]

[ QUOTE ]
This is more than $100k after conversion to American dollars. Nice month.

[/ QUOTE ]


PT does the conversions. the numbers are in dollars

[Sponger15SB]

[ QUOTE ]
after u post the blind and i win ur bust lol, don't act like such a tough guy, i've seen ur pic, ur the goofiest guy i've iver seen in my life

[/ QUOTE ]

dude, I challenged you, and you back down. You're the biggest vag on these forums.

[Justin A]

[ QUOTE ]
after u post the blind and i win ur bust lol, don't act like such a tough guy, i've seen ur pic, ur the goofiest guy i've iver seen in my life

[/ QUOTE ]

Shut up.

[bicyclekick]

Well, the games were begging to get played when i got back from the bar/gf's so I sat and ended up with a month total of $95,019. Soooooooooo close to 100k dammit. I'll probably never get anywhere near it again either. I'm not complaining, don't get me wrong, it would have just been cool. /images/graemlins/cool.gif

[pfkaok]

I decided to be sneaky and take most of the day off, and just start at midnite for a quick first session of the month.


usually I'll probably only post updates every 3 days or so, but I got off to a pretty good start, so if anyone's interested... 1080 hands, + $1382 Now i just need to do that 60 times and i'm there /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[pfkaok]

[ QUOTE ]
Well, the games were begging to get played when i got back from the bar/gf's so I sat and ended up with a month total of $95,019. Soooooooooo close to 100k dammit. I'll probably never get anywhere near it again either. I'm not complaining, don't get me wrong, it would have just been cool.

[/ QUOTE ]

Sorry you didn't quite make it, very close. You even had the 31 days this month to do it... next month will be tougher. 95k is so damn impressive though in one month its hard to comprehend. congrats BK.

BTW, I wonder if anyone has EVER made 100k online in a single month playing mostly full ring LHE games. If its been done, I bet not too many times, or by too many different people.

[fearme]

and yea im drunk now whats up bitch

[Schneids]

Meh screw BK I'm up $50,000 in March with 40% of the hands.

[Baulucky]

[ QUOTE ]
Meh screw BK I'm up $50,000 in March with 40% of the hands.

[/ QUOTE ]

How long before the fish are bled dry in these games?.

[Baulucky]

Oh...The sweet smell of GREEN...

What a run. Thanks for showing us, lowly geeks, what is possible.

[fearme]

are u spongers boyfriend?

[sthief09]

[ QUOTE ]
Meh screw BK I'm up $50,000 in March with 40% of the hands.

[/ QUOTE ]


screenshot!

(you're welcome)

[Justin A]

[ QUOTE ]
Well, the games were begging to get played when i got back from the bar/gf's so I sat and ended up with a month total of $95,019. Soooooooooo close to 100k dammit. I'll probably never get anywhere near it again either. I'm not complaining, don't get me wrong, it would have just been cool. /images/graemlins/cool.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Just for the record, BK is full of crap. He told me last night when he was playing that he was going to count the session for April, since it was past midnight and he wanted to make sure his monthly winnings was over 90k. So then he books a winner and suddenly it counts for March. Boooo!!

[Justin A]

[ QUOTE ]
Meh screw BK I'm up $50,000 in March with 40% of the hands.

[/ QUOTE ]

From a previous Schneids post:

"I`m taking the Vehn stance regarding discussing my winnings." (Implying that he wouldn't talk about how much he wins)