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gasgod

03-30-2005, 01:28 AM

Sometimes I just pick a random table at Party to watch, usually one of the higher limit tables. I'm just trying to get a feel for how good players play this game. This one was 100 + 9

This one floored me. CO had pot odds of 13:1, and folded to a minraise on the turn after betting the flop strongly.

Oh, and CO wound up taking first place. What am I supposed to learn from this?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG+1 (t365)
UTG+2 (t1195)
MP1 (t1250)
MP2 (t920)
MP3 (t475)
CO (t1760)
Button (t1045)
SB (t1230)
BB (t1030)
UTG (t730)

Flop: (t45) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (10 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 bets t30, MP3 folds, CO raises to t175, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+2 calls t145.

Turn: (t395) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (6 players)
UTG+2 bets t30, CO folds.

Final Pot: t425

GG

dfscott

03-30-2005, 01:35 AM

I'm really confused. This hand shows t45 in the pot, but the BB is t30, so it should only be the SB and the BB, but there's a bunch of people in there. Also, there's no pre-flop action?

Regardless, here are my thoughts based on what I can divine of the HH.

It looks like CO tried to steal the pot on the flop with nothing. Once he got called, he knew he was beat and was done with the hand (and possibly even drawing dead). The min bet was intended to show weakness, but he didn't fall for it.

gasgod

03-30-2005, 01:48 AM

I'm confused too, but that's what converter did. Maybe because I didn't identify anybody as hero.

The HH:

***** Hand History for Game 1815711367 *****
30/60 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 10840271) - Tue Mar 29 23:38:14 EST 2005
Table Table 12936 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: dodema (365)
Seat 2: Hill_Grande (1195)
Seat 3: heids24 (1250)
Seat 4: zodon (920)
Seat 5: rynob1971 (475)
Seat 6: philemonwnl (1760)
Seat 7: corbo (1045)
Seat 8: jt_hua (1230)
Seat 9: Hizzywizzy (1030)
Seat 10: SoMoteItB (730)
jt_hua posts small blind (15)
Hizzywizzy posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
SoMoteItB calls (30)
dodema folds.
Hill_Grande calls (30)
heids24 folds.
zodon folds.
rynob1971 calls (30)
philemonwnl calls (30)
corbo folds.
jt_hua calls (15)
Hizzywizzy checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3h, Kc, 9h ]
jt_hua checks.
Hizzywizzy checks.
SoMoteItB checks.
Hill_Grande bets (30)
rynob1971 folds.
philemonwnl raises (175) to 175
jt_hua folds.
Hizzywizzy folds.
SoMoteItB folds.
Hill_Grande calls (145)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5h ]
Hill_Grande bets (30)
philemonwnl folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 560
Board: [ 3h Kc 9h 5h ]
dodema balance 365, didn't bet (folded)
Hill_Grande balance 1520, bet 235, collected 560, net +325
heids24 balance 1250, didn't bet (folded)
zodon balance 920, didn't bet (folded)
rynob1971 balance 445, lost 30 (folded)
philemonwnl balance 1555, lost 205 (folded)
corbo balance 1045, didn't bet (folded)
jt_hua balance 1200, lost 30 (folded)
Hizzywizzy balance 1000, lost 30 (folded)
SoMoteItB balance 700, lost 30 (folded)

GG

boondockst

03-30-2005, 01:49 AM

I do think i have you beat LOL...i was also watching a 100+9 about a month ago and THIS PLAYER ALSO WON THE THING!!!

you have to figure you have outs....you either have a pair or overcards...such a weird fold...hand caught in cookie jar or not...

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

saw flop|saw showdown

 (t930)
SB (t3230)
BB (t1315)
UTG (t400)
UTG+1 (t830)
MP1 (t1005)
MP2 (t1275)
CO (t1015)

SB raises to 700.
BB calls (700)

Flop: (t1430!!!) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB bets t400, BB raises to t615 (All-In), SB folds.

[/ QUOTE ]

Apathy

03-30-2005, 01:53 AM

Strange hand for sure my guess is either a flop misclick/turn misclick or hero had 66 or 77 and made play at the flop and shut down when he got called. Neither player in this hand is very good imo. (based on other experience with them)

dfscott

03-30-2005, 01:54 AM

Yeah, nobody got dealt any cards so I think that confused it.

gasgod

03-30-2005, 02:10 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Sometimes I just pick a random table at Party to watch, usually one of the higher limit tables. I'm just trying to get a feel for how good players play this game. This one was 100 + 9

This one floored me. CO had pot odds of 13:1, and folded to a minraise on the turn after betting the flop strongly.

Oh, and CO wound up taking first place. What am I supposed to learn from this?

GG

[/ QUOTE ]

Converter evidently expects to have pocket cards specified. After entering a dummy line with pocket cards, this is what it gives: (Note: pot odds are 18.7:1 because final pot changed)

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG+1 (t365)
UTG+2 (t1195)
MP1 (t1250)
MP2 (t920)
MP3 (t475)
Hero (t1760)
Button (t1045)
SB (t1230)
BB (t1030)
UTG (t730)

Preflop: Hero is CO with ? ?
**UTG calls t30, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls t30, 2 folds, MP3 calls t30, Hero calls t30, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t150) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 bets t30, MP3 folds, Hero raises to t175, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+2 calls t145.

Turn: (t500) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG+2 bets t30, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t530

Sorry for the confusion.

GG