Was it dumb to coffehouse this?

[reecelights]

***** Hand History for Game 1814780691 *****
PL Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:10834196 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Tuesday, March 29, 21:10:27 EDT 2005
Table Table 13916 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: reecelights ( $1345 )
Seat 2: carddecker ( $985 )
Seat 4: Chiqueada ( $1565 )
Seat 3: dave228246 ( $3915 )
Seat 8: missellen1 ( $190 )
Trny:10834196 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to reecelights [ Kd Kh ]
missellen1 folds.
reecelights raises [150].
carddecker folds.
dave228246 folds.
Chiqueada calls [100].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5s, 2c, 7h ]
Chiqueada bets [325].
reecelights: A7 or a set...
Your time bank will become active in less than 20 seconds. If you do not want it to be used, please act now.
reecelights is all-In [1195]
missellen1: 2 pr
reecelights: No she wouldn't have called with 75
Chiqueada calls [870].



The turn was an A. I was right about A7.

[pooh74]

i think the funny part about this hand is the guy who had her on 2 pair...that's hysterical...nice read

[reecelights]

I've been getting called by a lot of LAggy types who think I'm bluffing lately, ad then have invariably sucked out. She was a bit tighter than most.

My intent was to let her know I knew I had her beat. Guess it didn't work.

Does anyone think she would lay this down because of my chat or does it encourage her to call?

[gumpzilla]

Why do you think that it would be dumb? I actually will do this kind of thing frequently when I'm folding; I've found that if you conjecture out loud about the player's hand, they are somewhat more likely to show you when you fold, particularly if you were dead wrong.

In response to your comment above, I don't think it would have much effect one way or the other. I think people generally ignore your chat in these kind of situations because of the whole reverse psychology angle that is potentially involved. Perhaps I'm wrong about this, but I think she's likely to make the move she was going to make anyway.

[reecelights]

Because I think I accidentally induced a call when I reraised after my chat.

[Slim Pickens]

Why the HELL do you want her to fold a five-outer?

[reecelights]

Good point. So you think this play was a good idea so as to INDUCE a call?

What if I was wrong and it was a set? Then I've made it an easy call if she has 55.

Maybe this was an unintentional bad beat whine.

[Slim Pickens]

I doubt the chat had much effect either way. As was stated before, people just tend to ignore it and do whatever they were going to do anyway. It's kind of like getting "reads" from how long people take to respond. Maybe they're thinking. Maybe they're changing a diaper. Who knows or cares? It will be an easy call for her with 55 no matter what. There's nothing you could say to get any player with more than eight brain cells to fold a set there. FWIW I think you don't really want to be called because it usually means you're beat, but by A7? Sure!

Slim

[Jason Strasser]

I lost brain cells reading this.

[reecelights]

I'm trying to decide if online coffeehousing is a good idea or not. If it was a waste of brain cells to read it, why waste more in responding?

Are you the content moderator?

[Phoenix1010]

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Good point. So you think this play was a good idea so as to INDUCE a call?

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Yes. However, it's generally best to keep quiet and just play poker. As this situation has demonstrated, you don't know how table talk will affect your opponents either way.

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What if I was wrong and it was a set? Then I've made it an easy call if she has 55.

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You really think it's not already an easy call with 55? Nothing you say in the chatbox is going to make her that afraid of 77.

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Maybe this was an unintentional bad beat whine.

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Seems so, but most people do it at least once.

-Phoenix

[willie]

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Are you the content moderator?

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give respect where it's due.

strassa kicks ass, watch him sometime.


and yes this is a bad beat post, and if you think you can talk someone into calling ont he flop drawing so thin, then by all means- chat it up.

[reecelights]

Well I apologize. I do appreciate and respect Jason's posts. Until this one. Isn't the point of these forums to help people improve rather than to insult them for asking a potentially naive question?

I felt Jason's post was unneccesary. I didn't feel any respect coming from him for what was, in my mind, a valid question.

I'm done.

[BradleyT]

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Are you the content moderator?

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Dude, you're talking to THE best SNG player on the forum there.

[gumpzilla]

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Dude, you're talking to THE best SNG player on the forum there.

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Dude, he was responding to AN entirely content free post.

[BradleyT]

Dude puts villian on hand. Dude is correct. Dude loses to a bad beat.

I think the two posts were about equal in content quality.