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SomethingClever
03-29-2005, 01:22 AM
No reads since I'm taking a break from PV.

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Preflop: Hero is MP with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, Hero folds.
bigmac366
03-29-2005, 01:28 AM
its party 1/2, BB has 72o because he "knew" you were trying to steal his blind, and SB has AA because thats what f-ing everyone has done to me today. either way you have 2 outs. i probably fold here too.
muzungu
03-29-2005, 07:42 AM
Ya, this is an easy fold, the main reason being that SB and BB both look pretty excited about their hands, and you will often get trapped for multiple bets on later streets. Plus your hand isn't that strong- even if neither one has a 2, you are often outkicked.

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No reads since I'm taking a break from PV.

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Reads are not just VPIP/PFR numbers. Taking a break from PV should give you more energy to focus on the qualitative aspects of reading players.

-muz
Roy6
03-29-2005, 10:12 AM
I fold here too. Btw I muck this preflop, do I miss something?
rmarotti
03-29-2005, 11:23 AM
Yes.
Your Mom
03-29-2005, 12:48 PM
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I fold here too. Btw I muck this preflop, do I miss something?

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WEAK!
SomethingClever
03-29-2005, 12:54 PM
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I fold here too. Btw I muck this preflop, do I miss something?

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It's 5-handed, I'm in the CO.. QTo is better than random hands.

RAISE!!!
Chobohoya
03-29-2005, 12:56 PM
[quote Btw I muck this preflop, do I miss something?

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EV
cjx
03-29-2005, 01:04 PM
Additionally given that we're playing 1-2 and your fold equity is much smaller. Still open raising or consider open limping?

Post flop looks ok, but I'd be happier with it if you'd pay attention to the players and take some notes. Suffice it to say these guys are probably semi passive and this laydown is easy.

cjx
SomethingClever
03-29-2005, 01:08 PM
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with it if you'd pay attention to the players and take some notes.

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Well, I actually do. I didn't have any on these guys yet, though.

That check/3-bet gave me all the read I needed in this case....