Two AKs hands: standard?

[waffle]

I'm back at 5/10 6max and I feel a bit unsure of my plan in these HU situations. How did I do?

Hand 1.

Villian is 44/12/2.5 tracked over only 35 hands.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.20 BB) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (9.20 BB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.20 BB


Hand 2.

Villian is 56/35/1.25 after 34 hands.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: (5 BB) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (7 BB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 7 BB

[mperich]

Hand 1: I fold this river, you are ahead of basically nothing.

Hand 2: Good.

-Mike

[maxpowers21]

[ QUOTE ]
Hand 1: I fold this river, you are ahead of basically nothing.

Hand 2: Good.

-Mike

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ditto. Unless the player in hand 1 is just a total lag/maniac you must fold, 0% of a big pot is still 0. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[rmarotti]

[ QUOTE ]
Hand 1: I fold this river, you are ahead of basically nothing.

Hand 2: Good.

-Mike

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[Rico Suave]

Hand 1:
Is everyone hunky dory with with the flop 3-bet, HU out of position? Where is the value? Getting a "free" card on the turn, even out of position?---seems unlikely to me. Getting an underpair to fold to a turn bet?---I guess I can see this. The flop is uncoordinated, other than the club draw, and hero holds the AK /images/graemlins/club.gif which makes it pretty unlikely that he is raising the flop on a draw. I guess he could be just making a move with a hand like AJ or KJ??--again, seems unlikely to me.

So, I guess what I am saying is that the value of a flop 3-bet is not apparent to me. Someone want to tell me why it is good?

--Rico

[Wynton]

I'm not in love with the 3-bet on the flop, unless the plan is to lead the betting on the turn also.

[SmileyEH]

Hero has two overs and the nut flush draw

-SmileyEH

[Rico Suave]

Smiley:

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Hero has two overs and the nut flush draw


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Yes, I think we all saw that. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

--Rico

[Victor]

i dont like the flop 3bet. since it was capped, i would fold the river.

if you hadnt 3bet (and gotten 4bet) it may be right to call the river.

[Victor]

[ QUOTE ]
Getting an underpair to fold to a turn bet?---I guess I can see this.

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i dont see players folding pairs when headsup in this game. especially, not players with numbers like villain here.

[ISF]

I cant see not three betting this flop. If you are behind you usually have around 45 % pot equity so it does not cost you much when behind, and sometimes you are ahead of a hand like AJ KJ making a move so there is value in it. So even with zero fold equity against a small pocket pair the threebet is probibly neutral to slightly +ev and you can never assume that the fold equity is exactly zero. I also think it is good for meta game considerations.

[waffle]

This 3 bet is the main reason I posted this hand. I have done a little analysis since. On the flop:

If villian has has a pair: I have 53% equity
If villian has a pair w/ an A or K in his hand: I have 46% equity
If villian has a set: I have 25% equity
If villian only has a lower flush draw (like JTs): I have 81% equity
If villian has two pair(??): I have 33% equity

All in all, it seems very questionable, given that he raised UTG and raised my flop bet after I three bet him PF. I think this means his most likely hands are a pair with an A or K in his hand or a set. He might have some of those hands I have equity over, but not often enough for me to be 3-betting for value (and worse, risk being 4 bet). I am not a fan.