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Kovner
03-27-2005, 11:48 PM
anyone get aggressive at any point? First hand at the table...

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Preflop: Hero is BB with T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (20 SB) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, SB calls, Hero calls, MP calls, CO calls.

Turn: (12.50 BB) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, SB calls, Hero calls, MP folds, CO calls.

River: (16.50 BB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, SB calls, Hero folds, CO folds.

Final Pot: 18.50 BB
sthief09
03-28-2005, 02:32 AM
I would call, not cap preflop. the rest looks fine to me
wackjob
03-28-2005, 02:47 AM
I think you save yourself a lot of bets folding when the flop gets bet out.
Sweaburg
03-28-2005, 02:54 AM
I'm not capping TT here very often and definitely not my first hand at the table with no reads. I'd fold the flop too. I don't see you ever being ahead here and catching a T could end up being costly for you....

Sweaburg
tolbiny
03-28-2005, 02:57 AM
i wouldn't TT in this pos either.

So i see the flop call, but why call the turn and fold the river. I would usually fold the turn in this situation.
sthief09
03-28-2005, 03:26 AM
gut shot
sthief09
03-28-2005, 03:26 AM
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I think you save yourself a lot of bets folding when the flop gets bet out.

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he saves bets, but he gives up equity. you'd also be saving bets by folding AA preflop. I agree it's a very marginal call
tolbiny
03-28-2005, 03:27 AM
My bad.
Sweaburg
03-28-2005, 03:39 AM
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I think you save yourself a lot of bets folding when the flop gets bet out.

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he saves bets, but he gives up equity. you'd also be saving bets by folding AA preflop. I agree it's a very marginal call

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Okay, I suck, but why ever call this flop? I can't ever see being ahead here.
tolbiny
03-28-2005, 03:50 AM
two backdoor straight draws + 2 T's to give him a set getting 20-1 (plus the very small chance he is currently ahead and will make it to showdown still ahead).
maxpowers21
03-28-2005, 07:08 AM
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I'm not capping TT here very often and definitely not my first hand at the table with no reads. I'd fold the flop too. I don't see you ever being ahead here and catching a T could end up being costly for you....

Sweaburg

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I don't see how catching a ten on the turn here would be very costly.
How can you peg someone on a gutshot to a straight draw to the ten or a higher set?

When you spike a ten you will be good here clearly most of the time in this field. You have great odds to call. I see nothing wrong with calling a flop bet, near closing the action.
maxpowers21
03-28-2005, 07:12 AM
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i wouldn't TT in this pos either.

So i see the flop call, but why call the turn and fold the river. I would usually fold the turn in this situation.

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Because he picked up a gutshot draw on the turn on a non-flush draw board, having 2 of the tens to the gutshot also makes it even less likely someone else will draw to a split. Turn call is fine.

River fold is fine too because there is no way you are ahead here, unless you are playing with retarded monekys, well maybe a call isnt so bad on the river, it is party.
tolbiny
03-28-2005, 11:37 AM
Yeah, sthief pointed out i missed the gutshot.