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sxz18
03-27-2005, 10:43 PM
Yes, this is one of those posts that's a rant. It's not a bad beat, just a bad player who I really want to kill right now.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG+1 (t975)
UTG+2 (t1380)
Hero (t975)
MP2 (t880)
MP3 (t1030)
CO (t1350)
Button (t545)
SB (t955)
BB (t2000)
UTG (t935)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls t15, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t65</font>, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, UTG calls t50, UTG+2 calls t50.

Flop: (t217.50) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 goes all-in (t1315), Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (t217.50) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

River: (t217.50) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Final Pot: t217.50

UTG+2 shows A /images/graemlins/spade.gif6 /images/graemlins/heart.gif for pair of tens ace kicker.
UTG+1 shows 5 /images/graemlins/spade.gif5 /images/graemlins/club.gif for quad fives.
Hero shows Q /images/graemlins/heart.gifQ /images/graemlins/diamond.gif for two pairs, queens and fives.

Would anyone have folded here and what was this idiot thinking?

LethalRose
03-27-2005, 10:59 PM
2 limpers to you and you just bet 4xBB? thats not going to make anyone fold with a hand that will get paid with if they hit. Most people at this site follow the 10% rule when calling raises with baby PP's.

no way I fold 55 in this situation, if you had raised more most would w/o thinking.

PhilipBass
03-27-2005, 11:06 PM
The idiot was the guy who called with A6. Two people show strengh on the flop and he calls? He either pressed the wrong button or is doing heavy amounts of crack.

The player with 55 played his hand well. You'll be surprised how often someone will call in that spot with Tx, an overpair, or even a hand like 77 or 88. It's easy for a bet like that on the flop to be interpreted as being from a "crazy internet player." He knows that, too. IMHO, he still has major stones to go all-in and risk not receiving further action.

Online, 55's all-in is justified. In a B&amp;M casino it would be insane.

skoal2k4
03-27-2005, 11:10 PM
what's the problem here? You probably end up putting all your money in by the turn anyway.

RandomFluke
03-27-2005, 11:11 PM
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The idiot was the guy who called with A6. Two people show strengh on the flop and he calls? He either pressed the wrong button or is doing heavy amounts of crack.

The player with 55 played his hand well. You'll be surprised how often someone will call in that spot with Tx, an overpair, or even a hand like 77 or 88. It's easy for a bet like that on the flop to be interpreted as being from a "crazy internet player." He knows that, too. IMHO, he still has major stones to go all-in and risk not receiving further action.

Online, 55's all-in is justified. In a B&amp;M casino it would be insane.

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A6o is the one who pushed on a bluff. 55 check/called

I think I go broke here too, especially if i have the pusher tagged as aggro.

PhilipBass
03-27-2005, 11:14 PM
Oh geez, you're right about A6. I should read more carefully next time. I still think he's on crack.

CardSharpCook
03-27-2005, 11:18 PM
what is it that you can't believe exactly? I'll grant that it is poor luck, but both other players played reasonably well. Sure, I'd not make UTG+2's move, but I understand bluffing a ten here. Players play like this. Get used to it.

CSC

sxz18
03-28-2005, 02:48 AM
The problem is I cannot believe how idiotic UTG+2 was. He cost me more chips than necessary. If I had just bet with my queens and reevaluated when reraised by UTG, I would've lost a lot less than my entire stack. I might have 400-500 chips left to work with. However, because of the stupid idiot who decided to go all-in with A6o, I pretty much went broke (80 chips left after I lost). UTG played his 55 fine and I can't say there's a better way to play it. I'm just frustrated that an ill-timed bluff cost me my entire stack against the nuts. I wish UTG+2 was sitting to my left.

skoal2k4
03-28-2005, 02:52 AM
how would you feel about this if UTG had AQo ?

sxz18
03-28-2005, 08:07 AM
If UTG had AQo, he wouldn't have called on the flop and I would be fine.