Maaaaaaax Powerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[sfer]

7 handed pink chip game (7.5/15 with 2.5 pink chips). The game has been decently aggressive.

MaxPower limps UTG, JBB, myself and Evan insta-muck with sirens blaring.

[Schizo]

Wow, is he really that tight? What was the best hands you guys folded?

[jason_t]

Is he tight? Limping UTG in an aggressive game would certainly seem suspicious if so.

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Is he tight? Limping UTG in an aggressive game would certainly seem suspicious if so.

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The game has been decently aggressive.


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[jason_t]

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Is he tight? Limping UTG in an aggressive game would certainly seem suspicious if so.

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The game has been decently aggressive.

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I don't get it. Of course I saw that in the OP and hence my comment. Or are you saying something else?

[Schizo]

I'm guessing max was going for a check raise.

EDIT: I misread your post earlier. 6-tabling right now....

[jason_t]

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I'm guessing max was going for a check raise.

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Same.

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EDIT: I misread your post earlier. 6-tabling right now....

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No problem. I hope it's going well.

[Schizo]

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No problem. I hope it's going well.

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Glad you understand. Up on every table but one! WOOT!

[ThinkQuick]

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I'm guessing max was going for a check raise.

EDIT: I misread your post earlier. 6-tabling right now....

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Hey, is this the new "sorry I was drunk"? I love it!

[Schizo]

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Hey, is this the new "sorry I was drunk"? I love it!

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No, 6 tabling and reading 2+2 isn't easy for me as I'm still learning.

[peachy]

OMG!! what r u people doin up!! bed!!!!

[Michael Davis]

So why can't you fold K4 when you know I am going to limp reraise? God I hate you.

-Michael

[Schizo]

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OMG!! what r u people doin up!! bed!!!!

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[DMBFan23]

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7 handed pink chip game (7.5/15 with 2.5 pink chips). The game has been decently aggressive.

MaxPower limps UTG, JBB, myself and Evan insta-muck with sirens blaring.

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but fear not, his name can be said by anyone...

[Luv2DriveTT]

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7 handed pink chip game (7.5/15 with 2.5 pink chips). The game has been decently aggressive.

MaxPower limps UTG, JBB, myself and Evan insta-muck with sirens blaring.

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Refresh my memory please, still waking up. I belive the hand was folded pre-flop all the way around. Correct?

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[MaxPower]

I think it was 6 handed at the time.

I limp UTG. I think Johnny Boom Boom called, sfer has a shocked look on his face and folds, Andrew called on the button, TT folded and Evan checked in the BB.

The flop was something like K T 3. I bet JBB folded, Andrew called, and Evan folded.

At this point is was pretty clear to me that everyone at the table knew what I had and would be able to play perfectly against me. I wasn't sure I Andrew knew my hand, but I thought he must.

Turn was a 3. I bet, Andrew raised. I said, "you know what I have don't you?". He said Yes. I serously considered folding, but I just called and checked the river in the dark.

The river was an Ace. Andrew bet, I raised and he folded.

Lesson, If you are ever playing at a shorthanded table that is all 2+2ers, don't try to limp re-raise with pocket aces.

[Luv2DriveTT]

1) I liked Sfer's version of this hand better. It makes you sound mysterious.

2) You left out the important part, each time you raised Sfer would sing Maaaaaaxxxxx Poweeeeeerrrr! And when you limped utg he also sang the song, as the table commented on how you would never limp UTG without a strong hand. Pwn3d!

3) Andrew had no clue what you had. Everyone else knew, but he had no clue. When you spoke about it, he started to guess.

4) I got you and Alex bad with the limp re-raise of aces the first time we played 7.50/15. That table was so hyper agressive.... it was bound to happen. That was serious ownage!

For the record... its no longer called the pink chip game. Its now the popsicle game until the additional chps arrive. Do you see why?

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[sfer]

JBB folded and I said, "UTG LIMP????" as I mucked. The board was also xx22A.

[Luv2DriveTT]

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JBB folded and I said, "UTG LIMP???? Maaaaaaxxxxx Poweeeeeerrrr! " as I mucked. The board was also xx22A.

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corrected your post.

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[Schizo]

2 questions:

1) Who is Andrew?

2) Why would you play an all 2+2'er table at a casino where they rake the crap out of you?

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1) Who is Andrew?

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That's Mr. Andrew to you, bub.:p

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2) Why would you play an all 2+2'er table at a casino where they rake the crap out of you?

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No rake. Time charge. And against most 2+2ers, yes I would.

[Evan]

1- Boom Boom's friend.
2- It was a NYC club, so they time charge us (and pretty reasonably).

[jason_t]

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2) Why would you play an all 2+2'er table at a casino where they rake the crap out of you?

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Answer: It's fun (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1962445&page=&view=&sb=5& o=&fpart=1&vc=1).

[Luv2DriveTT]

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2) Why would you play an all 2+2'er table at a casino where they rake the crap out of you?

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Answer: It's fun (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1962445&page=&view=&sb=5& o=&fpart=1&vc=1).

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and profitable (so far, it cannot always be of course). and it's the best live learning experiance you can get. Wanna learn to play good, play with better players than yourself.

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[CallMeIshmael]

Outta curiosity: what would you call with here?

Any PP?

[MaxPower]

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Outta curiosity: what would you call with here?

Any PP?

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I think that if he knows that I have aces, there are a lot of hands he should call with.

[CallMeIshmael]

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Outta curiosity: what would you call with here?

Any PP?

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I think that if he knows that I have aces, there are a lot of hands he should call with.

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I agree.

Any PP has huge implied odds.

Straight-flush cards are good, but I would think they wouldnt get as much action as a set.

Also, what are the chances of the pot being raise? (ie. does anyone not know?)

Because, if you get the LRR in, its pretty deadly to anyone who limped.

[Schizo]

So Max, you don't limp with any other hand here but AA? It's either raise or fold? That doesn't seem right.

[DMBFan23]

game theory would seem to dictate that he limp with other hands than AA, limp reraise with other hands than AA, and raise AA some of the time as well.

but I dont like that strategy for now, cause I dont play in tight/aggressive enough games where it matters. I just want to raise AA and let them call.

[me454555]

I agree. The fact that he can play perfectly against you postflop is definatly worht some +EV, even if he is way behind pf.

[Luv2DriveTT]

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7 handed pink chip game (7.5/15 with 2.5 pink chips). The game has been decently aggressive.

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Some in this thread are missing some obvious points here.

1) The game is short handed (7 is still considered short when you have a bunch of wild 2+2'ers lagging it up)
2) The game was agressive at this point in the evening.
3) In most agressive games it is rare to see a player limp under the gun. So when a good thinking player limps.....

That is when it becomes time to sing his theme song. And whats so great about his song is that it never grows old.

Maaaaaxxxxx Poweeeeeerrrr!

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[Joe Tall]

I bet, Andrew raised. I said, "you know what I have don't you?"

Horribly played.

Love,
Joe Tall

[Schizo]

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Outta curiosity: what would you call with here?

Any PP?

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I think that if he knows that I have aces, there are a lot of hands he should call with.

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In a multiway pot I can understand this, but if it's SH or HU why would you play against AA? Also, what hands would you play?

[Luv2DriveTT]

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Outta curiosity: what would you call with here?

Any PP?

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I think that if he knows that I have aces, there are a lot of hands he should call with.

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In a multiway pot I can understand this, but if it's SH or HU why would you play against AA? Also, what hands would you play?

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The villain here probably didn't know Max had Aces until Max sort of announced it. The rest of us did however.

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[TakeMeToTheRiver]

I am a little more confused... was this after I left the game? I guess it would have had to be because otherwise Evan could not have been the BB when Max was UTG.

I do remember a very early hand where Max raised UTG and we all folded (6 or 7 handed) and he showed AA -- at least I think that was also Max.

I left at 2AM -- how much longer did our friend Victor last?

Disclaimer: I am an NL hold'em player who has been convinced to try limit again in order to play with the pretty pink chips. By the way -- I am color blind, but I am pretty sure that some of those chips didn't look so pink.

[MaxPower]

This was after you left. Evan had switched seats.

I was dealt pockets aces five times that night. Twice in the no-limit game and 3 times in the limit game. Thats a lot for one night of B&M poker.

Victor left a few minutes after you did. For those who are wondering, Victor was a complete and utter maniac with no regard for money. He was also very drunk to the point where he was incapable of stacking his chips. I actually called Victor down with Queen high on one hand, but I didn't show the table. Every time he won a pot he would tip the dealer about $10 and then throw a handfull of chips into the middle of the table to be shared by all the players ("rake rebate"). Once he just put about $25 into the pot before the cards were dealt.

The funny thing is that I was down $500 when he left. After an hour and half of playing against mostly 2+2ers, I was up $200. Mostly luck.

[MisterKing]

This is a little OT, but is a pink chip game still going anywhere in AC? I'm going to be up there later this week/weekend and would love to give it a go as a change of pace from the 6/12 at Borgata.

[Luv2DriveTT]

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This is a little OT, but is a pink chip game still going anywhere in AC? I'm going to be up there later this week/weekend and would love to give it a go as a change of pace from the 6/12 at Borgata.

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The AC pink chip games alas are no more /images/graemlins/frown.gif NYC is the new home of the pink chip!

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[somapopper]

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game theory would seem to dictate that he limp with other hands than AA, limp reraise with other hands than AA, and raise AA some of the time as well.

but I dont like that strategy for now, cause I dont play in tight/aggressive enough games where it matters. I just want to raise AA and let them call.

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Yeah, I think this is the perfect application of that. You're playing with a bunch of folks who are absolutely certain that you're only making this play with aa or kk so you have to make it with aks aqs maybe even ako (make sure you show the hand of course) a small percentage of the time. Perhaps also limp calling with hands like 1010, ajs occasionally. Losing value with these hands seems to me to be worth gaining value with aa and kk.

Also, if you know that they know you have aa or kk (cause you assumed the one caller knew that before the hand) shouldn't you always raise these here? True you'll win the blinds most of the time, but this adds qq, jj, aks, aqs, ako, and aqo to your possible range of hands, and when an opponent holds one of these you're usually going to be able to bring him to the flop. as you play now, a smart player would fold ako if you limped w/ aa utg, but he would probably cold call with ako if you raised utg. Clearly you want to raise, right?