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elcheapo
03-26-2005, 11:24 PM
Smaller flop raise- lead the flop??

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t800)
MP3 (t800)
CO (t800)
Button (t785)
SB (t860)
BB (t755)
UTG (t800)
Hero (t800)
UTG+2 (t800)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls t15, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t75</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls t75, CO calls t75, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls t60.

Flop: (t325) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets t30</font>, UTG calls t30, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t350</font>, MP3 folds, CO calls t320, UTG calls t320.

Turn: (t1375) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t375 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds, CO calls t375 (All-In).

River: (t2125) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t2125
Voltron87
03-26-2005, 11:35 PM
I'm either going all in on the flop or all in CR. CR is good, though if you go just push.
elcheapo
03-27-2005, 02:50 AM
Raise was more than the pot, should I just go all in and hope for no AQ or A3,33,QQ. I guess I've already put in half my stack so might as well hope for a weaker ace or a flush draw to call if I go all in. Not that results matter but late position better had QQ and EP had KJ with one diamond (fish)
curtains
03-27-2005, 02:53 AM
I don't like check raising here. Too tired to go into great detail, but I'd nearly always bet 75-100% (I think I'd make it 225-275 usually) of this pot. There is 325 in the pot and you have just 725 chips in a field of 3 opponents. It just doesn't seem like the prudent time to give out free cards. If someone has an ace and bets the flop, you probably would hear from them anyway if you just bet out.
elcheapo
03-27-2005, 03:03 AM
Certain flops are action flops, lot of draws with broadway cards and I thought a free card with 2 players to act was improbable. This is a case by case kind of checkraise but thats why I posted it.
curtains
03-27-2005, 03:04 AM
Yeah but if this is an action flop, then why not bet since your opponents will then probably call you anyway. Checkraising isn't terrible or anything, but it wouldn't be my normal line.
elcheapo
03-27-2005, 03:10 AM
Okay, check, bet 225 and get called in 2 places then check/fold the 3rd diamond. Go allin on a non queen/diamond turn??. I guess this line saves about 125 chips but gives a diamond draw better pot odds (fundamental theorem of poker).
lastchance
03-27-2005, 03:35 AM
If you're going for the check-raise, you have to push. There's too much in the pot, and you've got way too little left in your stack.

But, if you lead out, you can bet t200. It depends on how likely the awful free card will be for you.

In this situation, check-raising allows you to get away from the third diamond falling, and lets you get all your chips in the middle. I like CRing.

Oh, and open pushing would not be a horrible line to take either.