QTo in sb

[bernie]

Mucks 10-20

Good game. Good predictable donators abound. LP is on the loose side, very passive. Conservative with raises.

I complete with QTo in sb and 4 or 5 see the flop.

Flop Q x x r x= disjointed rag cards

I bet, folded to LP who raises. Only I call.

Turn: Some low, piece of crap card

I check, LP bets then looks at me awaiting my decision, I fold.

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[gaming_mouse]

Same response as to your other hand: great if your read is correct, bad otherwise.

But if you're really sure of your read, then this hand is simple and not even worth a post. So I'd guess that your reason for posting is a nagging doubt about the read. But even then, as long as your read is usually correct, this can't be that bad.

[CallMeIshmael]

This one seems a lot less close than the other one.

Conservative players don't tend to raise a hand worse than top pair decent kicker.

[mr pink]

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LP bets then looks at me awaiting my decision

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how much did this influence your decision? and why?

[bernie]

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But if you're really sure of your read, then this hand is simple and not even worth a post. So I'd guess that your reason for posting is a nagging doubt about the read. But even then, as long as your read is usually correct, this can't be that bad.

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I had no qualms about my fold. I had to think a moment before folding to make sure. I posted it wondering how many would just auto-call it simply because they have top pair. Whether they overread the situation or underread it. Or in the other case, an overpair to the flop.

I realize that I posted 2 turn folds simultaneously which looks like I may be championing loose folds on the turn. I'm not.

Against unknowns, or with a 'blanket' approach, both hands play differently.

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[bernie]

Her flop raise, then turn bet was more of an influence. Her looking at me did help a little. She seemed pretty confident in her bet the way she acted.

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[Chris Daddy Cool]

hey b, no chance of her having Q9? if not then good fold, if maybe then bad fold. its all in the read, but i'm sure you already knew that.

[bernie]

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no chance of her having Q9?

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She isn't playing her hand that strong with that small a kicker. Especially with me betting out on a drawless board.

She also knows my play and respects it. One reason I had to think a bit on the turn is because I almost overread the situation, looking for any reasonable excuse to call.

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