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radek2166
03-25-2005, 09:35 PM
I know the cards have to be delt with the probability that they would come out in a regular poker game.

How bout the cards after the original deal? Are the next 1-5 cards that come out determined when the deal button is hit for the first time? Is the deck shuffled til the deal button is hit again?

bholdr
03-26-2005, 02:48 AM
yes, it's randomized. casinos havve a HA anyway, they have no need to further manipulate the odds in their favor.

I believe that VP shuffles every deal.

radek2166
03-26-2005, 09:00 AM
I know it shuffles every deal. With a slot machine people think that they have on seven on the pay line one above and on below that the machine is close to paying off.


What I am asking If I have lets say two pair K's and 8's it pays 1-1 for 2 pair pays for jacks or better.

Now i dump the 8's to try to hit 4 of a kind. Then 2 8's come up was it random or was it set to tease me?

cardcounter0
03-26-2005, 11:18 AM
IF it was in Las Vegas, or from a machine that is used in Vegas, than it was random. By law, machines that use images of cards have to be random and behave just like they were being dealt. Programming the machine to 'tease' would be illegal, and they would lose their license.

Now if it were some off-brand machine on an indian reservation, or an illegal machine in the back of some bar some where, your guess is as good as mine.

Terry
03-26-2005, 04:32 PM
There were some machines several years that dealt “non-random losers”. They have been outlawed in Nevada.

They worked just as you described, dealing a fair game but once the software had decided that you lost, a “close” losing hand was displayed as a teaser. They were incredibly effective, even when you knew what they were doing.