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theghost
03-25-2005, 10:59 AM
from the CSM March 25, 2005 edition - link (http://www.christiansciencemonitor.com/2005/0325/p02s02-ussc.html)


Youth gamblers on the rise
The popularity of poker and presence of online gambling have contributed to more problems among adolescents.

By Alexandra Marks | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

NEW YORK - For the first time, experts and treatment centers that deal with problem gamblers across the country are seeing an increasing number of adolescents who have developed serious gambling problems.

In Connecticut, for instance, it was rare for any treatment center to have clients younger than 18. That's until this year. Now, 11 youngsters are in formal programs getting help.

In Minnesota, a pioneering youth gambling-education group is seeing "a tremendous increase" in schools and youth organizations looking for tools to help kids deal with problem gambling.

And in Washington, experts are calling on Congress to hold hearings on the issue - in part because more than a dozen gambling shows air on prime-time television in an average week, and none routinely carries warning messages or public-service announcements on "responsible" gambling, according to the National Council on Problem Gambling.

"It is a major, growing issue," says Barbara Raimundo, a mother of a recovering gambling addict who now counsels other parents in Connecticut. "Our youth need major help, and someone has to be willing to step up to the plate before they start getting really devastated."

A key reason for the increase in youth gambling is that it's now seen as "cool." In fact, the once disreputable pastime that was confined to a handful of shady destinations a quarter century ago is now legal in all but two states, and is touted as glamorous entertainment.

Casinos heavily advertise their lavish, exciting amenities. Celebrities play poker on TV, and poker players become celebrities winning millions of dollars. At the same time, gambling is heavily advertised on the Internet and is easy to access, no matter how old one is.

Research shows that more than 70 percent of kids between 10 and 17 have gambled in the past year, according to the National Council. That's up from 45 percent in 1988. Experts also say they're gambling younger and playing for more money.

And, just as a percentage of adults who gamble are likely to develop a gambling addiction, so, too, are young people. Research shows that as many as 4 to 5 percent of adult gamblers will develop a serious gambling problem. Kids are at three times the risk of adults for developing a problem.

"We know that the earlier you start gambling, the more likely you will be to have a gambling problem. The National Academy of Sciences found that in 1999," says Keith Whyte, executive of the National Council on Problem Gambling in Washington.

But for many parents, whose kids are growing up in an age of drugs and AIDS, gambling is seen as a relatively safe pastime. Teens can be at home, playing a game that's thought of as fun. And for many people, a regular poker night or fundraising casino event at school may present no problems. But experts are concerned that a lack of education about gambling's potential pitfalls could feed an already alarming increase in younger problem gamblers.

"It is a situation where many parents still do assume that it's better for a kid to be gambling than to be out on the streets doing drugs or whatever," says Dr. Rachel Volberg, president of Gemini Research, which specializes in gambling studies in Northampton, Mass.

The primary risk is that kids can get so caught up in the thrill that they begin to gamble regularly. Eventually, they start risking money that they don't have - and losing it. When that starts, they're called problem gamblers, and the consequences include what doctors diagnose as depression as well as criminal behavior, according to the National Council.

One student at a Midwest college wrote the National Council asking for help. He said he'd started playing online poker and is now $5,000 in debt. His e-mail continued: "I want to quit gambling but at the same time I have to make the $5,000 back [because] I don't have it and it was written through IGM echecks. I think that could be considered a felony for writing bad checks. Any suggestions?"

Researchers are also beginning to believe that gambling is a "gateway" activity to riskier behaviors. Indeed, kids who gamble are also much more likely to binge drink, smoke marijuana, skip school, and have unsafe sex, according to several studies cited by the National Council.

Experts would like to see media outlets that air gambling events also show public-service announcements or other types of advertisements that talk about gambling's potential health risks, list warning signs, and provide information about responsible gambling - such as setting limits, never gambling during anger or depression, and never gambling on credit.

Mr. Whyte says the council has offered the Discovery Channel, Bravo, NBC, and others free public-service announcements, but so far they've declined them. ESPN, however, has aired some PSAs that included the council's help number, 800-522-4700.

There are also resources on the Internet for parents and kids who are interesting in learning about the risks involved with gambling and the attendant warning signs. The North American Training Institute (NATI) in Duluth, Minn., has designed a Web magazine for kids to learn about the risks involved with gambling: www.wannabet.org. (http://www.wannabet.org.) It also has resources for parents at www.nati.org. (http://www.nati.org.)

NATI's executive director, Elizabeth George, says it's crucial for parents to learn the warning signs. "If the child talks about gambling as the most exciting and important thing in their life, if it's superseding other things like a girlfriend or hockey practice, or if he is missing other activities because he's gambling, it could be the sign of a problem," says Ms. George.

Other indications of a problem include: lying about whether they are gambling; using money to gamble that's supposed to be used for other things like a winter jacket; borrowing money to gamble or, in a worst case, stealing it; and letting schoolwork suffer.

"Parents have to get gambling on their radar screen, they have to say, 'Tell me about your gambling," says George.

pokerstudAA
03-25-2005, 11:37 AM
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Researchers are also beginning to believe that gambling is a "gateway" activity to riskier behaviors. Indeed, kids who gamble are also much more likely to binge drink, smoke marijuana, skip school, and have unsafe sex, according to several studies cited by the National Council.

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This made me scratch my head. Gambling is the new gateway to problem behavior? Perhaps these people are already predisposed to this behavior and gambling has nothing to do with marijuana. Who are these researchers anyway?

ttleistdci
03-25-2005, 11:53 AM
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Researchers are also beginning to believe that gambling is a "gateway" activity to riskier behaviors. Indeed, kids who gamble are also much more likely to binge drink, smoke marijuana, skip school, and have unsafe sex, according to several studies cited by the National Council.

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This made me scratch my head. Gambling is the new gateway to problem behavior? Perhaps these people are already predisposed to this behavior and gambling has nothing to do with marijuana. Who are these researchers anyway?

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I agree...I don't see the connection. Pot as the gateway to other drugs...yes. Poker as the gateway to drugs and sex...no.

GrannyMae
03-25-2005, 02:47 PM
stories like this = biggest.threat.ever

MrDannimal
03-25-2005, 04:25 PM
Sort of. Being in the Christian Science Monitor (an oxymoron in its own right) greatly blunts the impact.

skoal2k4
03-25-2005, 04:28 PM
great... bring the government into more issues... how bout we ask them to pass a law or oversee us when it comes to wiping our ass... when are the parents going to step up and take responsibility?

z32fanatic
03-25-2005, 04:29 PM
I disagree with the article but I've done all 4 of those things, 3 of which were after I started gambling. /images/graemlins/blush.gif

Flint{$N}
03-25-2005, 04:40 PM
I also disagree with the article, but obviously it depends on the individual and their surronding enviroment.

In contrast, i massively cut down on my drinking and completely stopped blazing BECAUSE OF playing cards.

memphis57
03-25-2005, 11:17 PM
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...I don't see the connection. Pot as the gateway to other drugs...yes. Poker as the gateway to drugs and sex...no.

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Well, you swallowed one line of gateway bullchit after you heard it repeated enough times - you'll probably fall for this one too with a few more repetitions.

Gateways are right up there with the domino theory for Most Fallacious Analogy candidates. The obvious flaw is that if you're predisposed to get over the fence, you don't need a gate, and if you happen to see several gates any one will do.

See the predispositon explanation another poster answerd with nearby.

memphis57
03-25-2005, 11:20 PM
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In contrast, i massively cut down on my drinking and completely stopped blazing BECAUSE OF playing cards.

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Like this? LOL, never heard of blazing before.



"Blazing Saddles - Pop the film Blazing Saddles into the old VCR or DVD player and enjoy the best drinking game I have discovered to date. Every time a racial slur or profanity is uttered on film, you must take a gulp of your chosen beverage (preferably beer). By the end of the motion picture you will be extremely hammered."

Jeff W
03-25-2005, 11:22 PM
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Well, you swallowed one line of gateway bullchit after you heard it repeated enough times - you'll probably fall for this one too with a few more repetitions.

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Gateway analogies are an alarming gateway to gateway analogies.

bobbyi
03-26-2005, 12:05 AM
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using money to gamble that's supposed to be used for other things like a winter jacket

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The example was extremely helpful here. Otherwise, I would have had no concept of the sorts of things one might purchase using money.

scotty34
03-26-2005, 12:27 AM
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Poker as the gateway to drugs and sex

[/ QUOTE ] This makes me wish I started playing poker earlier

bobbyi
03-26-2005, 12:54 AM
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Well, you swallowed one line of gateway bullchit after you heard it repeated enough times - you'll probably fall for this one too with a few more repetitions.

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I want to insult the pot-is-a-gateway drug theory, but honestly there is some truth to it. If I didn't have a lot of experience smoking pot, I don't think I would have ever been comfortable trying e or acid or mushrooms. It's kind of like poker. If you've never played 3/6, it's pretty intimitidating to sit down for the first time at a 100/200 table. I guess that's the upside to pot. The downisde is that I have known plenty of people for whom it turned out to be a gateway to a cigarette habit.

GrannyMae
03-26-2005, 01:03 AM
The downisde is that I have known plenty of people for whom it turned out to be a gateway to a cigarette habit.


many people in quebec mix tobacco with the weed when rolling.**

pot is mostly decriminalized there but the frogs who do this should be sentenced to pick the fields on KGC land


disclaimer: any and all pot references are based on knowledge of my friend gladys's glaucoma meds /images/graemlins/shocked.gif

NoTalent
03-26-2005, 01:53 AM
These damn kids are gonna f it up for the rest of us. The last thing we need is another reason to make all forms of online gambling illegal...

There was a news story on tonight on the news about this same thing. School aged kids going to gambling anon meetings and throwing their lives away :|

thrillhouse7
03-26-2005, 01:53 AM
Meth is my gateway drug.

but seriously, people who mistake correlation and cause/effect bother me.

WackoJacko
03-26-2005, 02:22 AM
I love youth gambling, more fish, easier money

if anything we should try to encourage it as long as it isn';t your kids

contentless
03-26-2005, 02:23 AM
You love youth? Who knew?

NAU_Player
03-26-2005, 03:50 AM
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when are the parents going to step up and take responsibility?

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EliteNinja
03-26-2005, 04:18 AM
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I agree...I don't see the connection. Pot as the gateway to other drugs...yes. Poker as the gateway to drugs and sex...no.


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If only Poker was the gateway to sex. It sure doesn't apply to me. (http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/bunny.php)

alabubba
03-26-2005, 11:53 AM
Boners are the gateway to sex, and sex is the gateway to kinky sex. Oooooh....