A few Hands (Do I not give my opponents enough credit?) [Archive]

lehighguy

03-25-2005, 10:43 AM

I think I've become too loose with my calls in 6max. The problem is I can't tell when these people know how strong or not strong thier hand is or not. Also, sometimes when they push hard it makes me wonder if they really have the hand or a draw or something since they would want to conceal a good made hand. Anyway, some hands.

Hand 1:
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

BB ($46.4)
UTG ($73)
MP ($118.85)
CO ($117.2)
Hero ($172.55)
SB ($97.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG calls $1, MP calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $4, SB (poster) calls $3.50, 1 fold, UTG folds, MP calls $3.

Flop: ($14) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
SB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $7, SB raises to $22, MP folds, Hero calls $15.

Turn: ($58) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets $56, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $114

Give up on flop?

Hand 2:
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BB ($145.95)
UTG ($57.25)
Hero ($109.2)
SB ($52.45)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. UTG posts a blind of $1. SB posts a blind of $0.5.
Hero raises to $2, SB (poster) raises to $2.5, UTG (poster) calls $2, Hero calls $1.

Flop: ($9) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 players)
SB bets $5, UTG folds, Hero raises to $10, SB calls $5.

Turn: ($29) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
SB bets $5, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $34

Bad Laydown?

Hand 3:
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CO ($92.3)
Button ($99.7)
SB ($153.2)
BB ($49.85)
Hero ($118.55)
MP ($273.25)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.5.
Hero calls $1, 2 folds, Button calls $1, SB (poster) completes, BB raises to $2, Hero calls $2, Button calls $2, SB folds.

Flop: ($10) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
BB bets $3, Hero calls $3, Button folds.

Turn: ($16) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $4, Hero calls $4.

River: ($24) T/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $15, BB raises to $30, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $69

Bad Bluff?

Hand 4:
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BB ($224)
Hero ($124.15)
MP ($204.7)
CO ($113.2)
Button ($75.25)
SB ($106.9)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.5.
Hero raises to $4, MP calls $4, 1 fold, Button calls $4, SB (poster) calls $3.50, 1 fold.

Flop: ($17) J/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $10, MP raises to $20, Button folds, SB folds, Hero calls $10.

Turn: ($57) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $25, Hero calls $25.

River: ($107) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $30, MP calls $30.

Final Pot: $167
Comments.

xorbie

03-25-2005, 02:14 PM

Hand 1 good laydown on the turn, I'd probably lay down the flop too, because I don't see what he could have besides an 8.

Hand 2, why are you raising the flop? There's no draw, so one of you is outkicked. I would just call here, or fold I feel I'm outkicked. Let him keep betting into you, try to keep the pot small with a marginal one pair hand. Why fold the turn?

Hand 3: He induced a bluff here I think.

jpg7n16

03-25-2005, 02:32 PM

Hand 1:

I would probably played right about the same as you did.

Hand 2:

I would probably have re-raised him on the turn too. Or at least called, but definitely not folded.

Hand 3:

You can't bluff by calling. It never drives anyone else out of the pot. The only way to bluff is to bet or raise. And I don't tend to try and bluff on the river after the guy who has been betting the whole time checks it to me (especially when the card is not a scare card). Smell a check-raise waiting to happen...

Hand 4:

I'm not really experienced enough to know what kind of hand to put him on. Especially since everyone else called the raise too. Probably would have raised more PF to drive out smaller drawing hands, or get one sucker that didn't know better to give me some more cash. I don't know what else to do on the rest of the hand though.