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El Barto
03-25-2005, 07:40 AM
Canada rejects GI's request for asylum (http://www.billingsgazette.com/index.php?id=1&display=rednews/2005/03/25/build/nation/65-gi-asylum.inc)

A U.S. Army paratrooper was denied political asylum Thursday, dealing a blow to Americans who are seeking refuge in Canada to avoid serving in an Iraq conflict that they argue would force them to commit atrocities against civilians.

An immigration board ruled that Jeremy Hinzman had not convinced its members he would face persecution or cruel and unusual punishment if returned to the United States.

Seven other American military personnel have applied for refugee status, and Hinzman's lawyer estimated dozens of others are in hiding in Canada waiting to see how the government ruled. The attorney, Jeffry House, said Hinzman would appeal the ruling and expected to win.

"He is disappointed," House told CBC TV. "We don't believe that people should be imprisoned for doing what they believe is illegal."

Immigration and Refugee Board member Brian Goodman, who wrote the ruling, said Hinzman might face some employment and social discrimination. But "the treatment does not amount to a violation of a fundamental human right, and the harm is not serious," he wrote.

Canada opposed the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, and the decision could help ease strained relations between the two governments.

Hinzman could face charges of desertion if sent home and would face up to five years in prison. He and seven other U.S. military deserters are being represented by House, a Wisconsin native who came to Canada in 1970 to avoid the draft during the Vietnam War.

The Pentagon has urged the deserters to return to the United States and take up their concerns at their respective military bases.

"We are an Army serving a nation at war," the Army said in a statement after Thursday's ruling. "Each of us volunteered to serve, and the vast majority serve honorably. AWOL and desertion are crimes that go against Army values, degrade unit readiness and, in a time of war, may put the lives of other soldiers at risk."

Hinzman, 26, lives with his wife and young son in Toronto, where Quakers and the War Resisters coalition of anti-war groups have taken on his cause and provided some shelter. Coalition supporters planned to demonstrate Thursday in front of the U.S. Consulate in Toronto.

He fled from Fort Bragg, N.C., in January 2004, weeks before his 82nd Airborne Division was due to go to Iraq. He had served three years in the Army, but had applied for conscientious objector status before his unit was sent to Afghanistan in 2002.

Hinzman argued to the Immigration and Refugee Board in December that he would have had to take part in war crimes if he went to Iraq, saying the war there is illegal.

He said he would be persecuted if forced to return to the United States.

Hinzman's lawyer estimated as many as 100 American war resisters are hiding in Canada, waiting to see how Hinzman's case is played out before coming forward. He said 30,000 to 50,000 Americans fled to Canada during the Vietnam War and were allowed to settle here, but Hinzman would have become the first American soldier to be granted political asylum in Canada.

Felix_Nietsche
03-25-2005, 07:47 AM
What a p*ssy...

REAL MEN love to Kill. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

mmbt0ne
03-25-2005, 03:45 PM
This is a completely bitch move. It's one thing to leave the country to avoid a draft if you don't agree with the war. It is a completely different situation to enlist, and then refuse to serve.

dr_venkman
03-25-2005, 03:51 PM
Interesting. I wonder what would happen to this GI should the situation arise where he was tried and convicted of desertion for failing to go to war, and then an international court finds that going to war in Iraq was in fact illegal, thereby making the refusal of an illegal order completly justifiable and as stated by the Army code of ethics, necessary. If fact this is found to be so by a military court of justice.

Does the GI still have to serve time?

Seether
03-25-2005, 04:32 PM
I hope they extradite him and he gets to spend 5 years in jail. You have to be one hell of a pussy to join the army and then tuck tail and run when you are called to serve.

Felix_Nietsche
03-25-2005, 05:53 PM
Geez-Zus....
Another nitwit 'international court'/ 'international law' pot.

YES, he would serve time.
This may be news to you..BUT
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS A SOVEREIGN COUNTRY
An 'international court' has ZERO jurisdiction over the USA.

It is only through treaties ratified by by the US Senate where the USA is obligated to follow the rules of the treaty WITH the nations that signed that treaty. I suppose they don't teach basic government classes in the schools anymore. Based on this post, the education system of the USA is indeed failing. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Jeez...You might as well say that the USA is subject to the laws of Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny...

ThaSaltCracka
03-25-2005, 10:44 PM
^^^^HAHAHAHAH



I hope they send this GI to Leavenworth for a long time, the [censored] douche bag.