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Scuba Chuck

03-24-2005, 10:56 PM

What hand are you putting our villain on here?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP1 (t680)
MP2 (t695)
MP3 (t580)
CO (t835)
Hero (t805)
SB (t815)
BB (t830)
UTG (t795)
UTG+1 (t695)
UTG+2 (t1270)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
3 folds, MP1 calls t30, 1 fold, MP3 raises to t75, 1 fold, Hero calls t75, 1 fold, BB calls t45, MP1 calls t45.

Flop: (t315) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, MP3 bets t30, Hero calls t30, BB calls t30, MP1 calls t30.

Turn: (t435) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, MP3 bets t60, Hero calls t60, BB folds, MP1 folds.

River: (t555) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets t200, MP3 raises to t415 (All-In), Hero calls t215.

Final Pot: t1385

I'll post later...

sng-sam

03-24-2005, 11:32 PM

Chuck:
what's the buy in? I forget what you play but anything = or < $30 and I'd put him on a busted flush draw AJ suited perhaps. The way you played it villan might have you on busted draw as well. Just my $.02

Rick

RobGW

03-24-2005, 11:42 PM

His PF bet indicates strength, the flop bet looks weak, his turn bet looks weak, and then he checkraises all in on the river when you showed no strength the whole hand. Wow this is a tough one. I'll take a stab at it and say he has 77 and thought your bet on the river was a bluff since you didn't raise on the turn.

morgan180

03-24-2005, 11:57 PM

PF
AK, AQ, AJ, 88-AA (probably not AK, KK, or AA for obvious reasons, probably not 88-99 because i think you'd play these for set value in this position or raise more, most likely TT-QQ because of the raise but still looking for action)

Flop
AJ, 99-QQ

the min bet is a weak attempt and looks like they are either on a flush draw or they have no balls up against a potential flush draw and are hoping the drawer doesn't either??

Turn
AJ, QQ (maybe JJ although seems pretty passive for such a hand)

River
JJ, KJ, AK or QQ but i am not sure - i'm paying this one off one way or another.

BradleyT

03-25-2005, 12:00 AM

adanthar

03-25-2005, 12:23 AM

It doesn't really matter because you're all in on the river (I'd probably raise the turn, BTW).

Scuba Chuck

03-25-2005, 12:46 AM

If you thought he had JJ, would you play the turn or river different?

I still just keep thinking about the flop bet. Who/why minibets here? The flush draw?

Well, I was foolish enough to go allin at the end here. Looking back, I should have been smart enough to see that I wanted a cheap showdown. I just chalk this up to learning.

Villain had 55

adanthar

03-25-2005, 12:55 AM

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I still just keep thinking about the flop bet. Who/why minibets here? The flush draw?

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AA might. So might an idiot with TT, or an idiot with AJ, or AK, or one with two cards. I've seen all five.

Like I said, I raise the turn (and can then fold to a push.)

nyc999

03-25-2005, 12:57 AM

You should re-name this thread "How not to play 55"

The Yugoslavian

03-25-2005, 01:00 AM

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You should re-name this thread "How not to play 55"

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I don't know....that raise on the river looked solid.

Yugoslav

SuitedSixes

03-25-2005, 01:05 AM

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You should re-name this thread "How not to play 55"

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I don't know....that raise on the river looked solid.

Yugoslav

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microbet

03-25-2005, 01:40 AM

If I had to pick only one hand it would be JJ.

microbet

03-25-2005, 01:57 AM

I said JJ too (before I read any other posts), but 55 and 66 are pretty much the same after the flop. I just thought preflop raise was more likely with JJ, but it was a little small for most people.

I certainly didn't think he had the full house until the check-raise on the river though. Plus, I couldn't help taking into account that most posts are about losing hands.

The min-bets struck me right away as either "please don't bet" or "please don't fold."

I think either a check or a smaller bet on the river. There is no chance you are making a better hand fold, and there aren't many hands you beat that would call a big bet.

microbet

03-25-2005, 02:00 AM

yeah, that too. raising the turn.

lastchance

03-25-2005, 02:56 AM

At the low levels, you can push AK here. People call with junk. You're going to get calls from AQ and AJ, if there's a maniac, which there probably will be, you can get worse. The bad part is that you might be up against a PP. Just something to think about, because I hate calling AK here, raising means you have to stick at least a quarter of your stack in the middle, and folding AK.....