PokerStars $5.50 rebuy hand, seriously wtf was this guy thinking? [Archive]

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Capone1

03-23-2005, 10:57 PM

All i want know is why the hell would he call me?
Also should I have played the hand any differently?

The guy playing really lose and folding to raises post flop. Real reckless player(obviously).

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t2000 (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG (t26195)
UTG+1 (t26161)
MP1 (t48158)
MP2 (t33845)
CO (t96674)
Button (t32320)
Hero (t34470)
BB (t55205)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
4 folds, CO calls t2000, 1 fold, Hero raises to t8000, 1 fold, CO calls t6000.

Flop: (t16700) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets t2000, Hero raises to t10000, CO calls t8000.

Turn: (t36700) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets t16370 (All-In), CO calls t16370.

River: (t69440) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t69440

Results in white below: 
CO has Jh Qc (straight, ace high).
Hero has Kd Ac (two pair, aces and kings).
Outcome: CO wins t69440.

Capone1

03-23-2005, 11:03 PM

BTW there were 117/712 left, 63 get paid.

ClaytonN

03-23-2005, 11:05 PM

Fold preflop.

Seriously, though, this constitutes as a bad beat post, and bad beat posts make baby Jesus cry.

Thank you for at least asking analysis on the rest of the hand.

Others may disagree, but I think you raised too much preflop. I would go for somewhere around the 6000 range.

I also think you raised too much on the flop. You practically priced yourself in, more than half your stack is in the pot before the turn. I'd repop his bet to approx. 6,000.

As to why he played QJ with you, the correct answer is he's retarded.

Capone1

03-23-2005, 11:12 PM

Thx,

I wasnt not trying to make a bad beat post. I face trouble playing AK deep in MTTs and off of the reads i was getting from the player i was trying to get him out of the hand because he tended to get in the hand, bet post flop then fold to a raise. Also, I realize what you were saying about the size of my raises but i was putting the guy on 1 pair or nothing so i wanted to make him pay for staying in the hand(though i honestly didnt think he was going to call my post flop raise).

mrbaseball

03-23-2005, 11:17 PM

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All i want know is why the hell would he call me?

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He called preflop because he already money in the pot with a big chiplead

He called on the flop because he had a piece and a big chiplead

He called on the turn because by now he only has to put in 16K more with a piece a gutshot and a big chiplead

You need to push the flop (or preflop) against a big stack if you want him lay it down.

nsj

03-23-2005, 11:46 PM

To go ahead with actual hand analysis, I see it differently than Clayton.

I like the raise to 8000, especially after a limper. With 17K in the pot, and TPTK against a laggy reckless player who could have anything, I usually just push with TPTK here.

Point, I guess, is that I think checking the flop is a poor play, because it brings laggy big stack along. You're ahead on a board heavy with draws for a loose caller. That he's an idiot (given his ultimate holding) is irrelevant. You priced him in, and he caught. Push him out here. You have a very good and very vulnerable hand.

With your stack, your hand, that flop, and the 17K in the middle, take it down on the flop.

billyjex

03-24-2005, 12:23 AM

I don't really get the flop C/R.

You raised PF, you should lead the flop. I would push here on the flop, actually (not C/R, leading with a push.) I like to take this big pots take when I can -- I'm not going to milk him with TPTK. He can easily suck out and you will be pot committed.

slickpoppa

03-24-2005, 12:38 AM

You were outplayed by a superior player. Quit poker now because you suck.